Electric bill doubled after new gas furnace install
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Comments (17)I was curious as to why you are referring to solar energy in gallons instead of kwh kilowatt hours? I have never heard of storing gallons of energy. Energy is stored in batteries that are not measured by gollons but instead are measured by cranking amps, and cold cranking amps. If you have energy storage containers they would be somewhat like large car batteries or more likely similar to forklift batteries . I have 17 4'x8' solar panels that supply power for my house and is supposed to put excess energy into the energy company grid and credit me for the energy that they receive . The actual process is that the electric company gets my excess energy and they give me a $2,200 dollar bill at the end of the year. I think I am being ripped off and have no proof or anyone to give the proof to. I am wishing I didn't spend $14,000 dollars for solar panels and still had $120 electric bill instead of $180 x 12 months all at once. But hopefully you at least didn't have to spend $14,000 to get a larger electric bill ad I did....See MoreMost recent gas and electric bill
Comments (24)Oops. I posted this in the thread by the same name on the Money Saving Forum but am copying here because I really need to know if others have billing that reads like this. I've always used their budget billing before, but switched to actual so I can get a better handle on what we're really using at the time. Total $268. Gas $205.(154therm) Elec. $62. (454kwh) Upstate NY 1668sf colonial Around here there is a delivery charge of $20+ whether you use gas or not! Learned that selling a completely empty house with nothing turned on during the summer! Our bills are so convoluted. Delivery and Supply are billed separately and at different rates for first 3 therms, etc. Do your bills look like this? I hate it. COPIED FROM CURRENT BILL: (this is just the gas part, elec is worse--supply and delivery on different parts of bill) Natural Gas Delivery Charges Natural gas used (ccf) 153 Energy content factor x 1.022000 Natural gas used (therm) 156.4 Customer charge 14.38 Bill issuance charge 0.62 Included in customer charge 3.0 therm @ 0.00 0.00 Delivery charge for next 97.0 therm @ 0.17417 16.89 Delivery charge for next 56.4 therm @ 0.16241 9.16 Weather adjustment -12.3 therm @ 0.16178862 -1.99 SBC charge 156.4 therm @ 0.0038 0.59 Subtotal Natural Gas Delivery $39.65 Natural Gas Supply Charges Supply charge - November 46.0 therm @ 0.930671 42.81 Supply charge - December 110.4 therm @ 1.05854 116.86 Merchant funct chg - November 46.0 therm @ 0.038857 1.79 Merchant funct chg - December 110.4 therm @ 0.039409 4.35 Subtotal Natural Gas Supply $165.81 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------...See MoreYikes - GasPak/Install Prices Doubled?!
Comments (3)You can get some more estimates. There are good priced installers out there. You might want to ask some contractors about a generalization of their prices over the phone to see whether your dealing with a high or lower priced contractor....See MoreFair price for labor to install replacement HE A/C & Gas Furnace
Comments (18)This thread is exactly how people make poor decisions, basing things on cost. Certainly for the most part it doesn't always matter how much or even how little you spend on an install. But to play the role of Monday morning quarterback and question every play doesn't mean a whole lot. So you and all your knowledgeable accountant ways like to look at what the company is making for 'labor'. Yeah, your belief is that 'labor' is the only cost a company faces to win your job, they have no other bills. The company just buys the equipment, pays labor to put it in and then pocket the rest. I think because you all know so much, you should inspire yourselves to learn the trade spend 4 years gaining the experience required to take the HVAC license exam and then go out and take it and try to pass it, plunk down some money for general liability insurance, by a truck or van then fill it with tools and equipment to do the job. Certainly the tools or equipment never break so you buy them once and you can use them for 20, 30 - 50 years even. Heck the truck never needs gas, no maintenance, tires last forever, the stickers that you plaster over it are free too. In fact I was surprised that after driving the van for a few years the dealership called me and said they have some new ones they were giving away for free, they said they loved the fact that I drove all over town advertising their brand of truck / van. Those that 'pretend' to know a lot about a subject, actually know very little. Why would I be listed on this board as the 'pro' while they are not? In the HVAC business world there is a 50% chance that business has failed within 5 years. By year 10 it's close to 100%. I realize nothing I say here will sink in, this mentality has existed in some form over the previous 21 years I've been in the HVAC business....See Moreweedmeister
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