stone veneer on front facing only?
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Can we talk about stone veneer?
Comments (60)When exterior materials of different coefficients of expansion are rigidly attached to one another, they will eventually fail. Therefore, the attachment detail of veneer materials not only needs to allow water to drain, it must allow the materials to move independently. This is why the original "brick veneer" system had a cavity between the structural wall and a wythe of brick 4" thick and the brick was supported on a ledge and attached to the wall with flexible ties. A stone veneer wall was the same with 4" thick stone. I've designed and built many buildings with this system. Designing a tile-like cladding for a wood framed wall is difficult even in warm, dry climates. Some good systems were described in this thread 5 years ago. I'm not sure why cultured stone would perform worse than natural stone except that it absorbs more moisture, however, the joints do that anyway and in the photos above, the cultured stone doesn't appear to have cracked....See MoreFastening to Stone Veneer
Comments (2)If you can find a molly bolt fastener that has the neck long enough for the mortar as well as the substrate behind it, I would go that route. You would have to estimate the thickness of the grout/mortar/substrate. The longest I've seen in a molly was 1-1/4" so I dont know that would work for you dependent on your stone/grout/mortar depth plus the plywood behind it. Another avenue would be the toggle bolt route you mentioned using a fender washer for over the larger drilled hole. Here's a link that might help: Here is a link that might be useful: fasteners...See MoreStone veneer over a wavy concrete retaining wall
Comments (5)I'm mostly in agreement with yardvaark. Certainly the wall was built by someone not knowledgeable in how to form for a wall (maybe a homeowner?). The wall does point out the fact that even when done by an amateur, poured concrete walls are often long lasting. If the wall is 2ft high and has no lean or evidence of failure, then I think it is likely that there is suitable footer and probably rebar tying the wall to footer. It's a shame the forming was not done well. It looks problematic to do a veneer on this wall. The footer does not appear to extend far enough in front of the wall to provide support for the veneer. If not, only thin light weight materials can be used for the veneer. Getting the face evened out for a thin veneer is beyond the skill of most, even those who often work with concrete. The likely result would probably disappoint you. I would suggest breaking out the wall to the footer. The footer may or may not be suitable for a new wall. Add to the old footer or pour a new one to be slightly higher than the walk. Form for a new wall with the wall face 4 inches back from the edge of the footer.The result should be a perfectly flat wall where even a homeowner could do a reasonable job of installing veneer. If you decide to go this way I can give you directions on how to do a homeowner style of forming and how to do drainage through the wall....See MoreStone Veneer around front porch
Comments (4)Thank you for writing back! I’ll have more photos soon, but i think it’s absolute shady business that the model Home has a nice finished edge and cap and they are saying that ours is just going to be done like this. Should I have an expert mason come and look at it and fight the builder on it?...See More- 4 years agolast modified: 4 years ago
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