Why not 30” on each side of the stove if symmetry is important and store trays somwhere else . Why can’t you do 27” in my experience any good cabinet company does cabinets in 3” increments . I also find 24” drawers are not great for pot storage . I have a ton of pots and store them all in 2 x36” deep drawer cabinets . I hope you are using an actual KD not the sales people from the cabinet company. BTW no 2 pulls or knobs on wide drawers .I have never used that cabinet company so no clue as to what is really available just commenting on my experience. I find it odd you worry about symmetry in the base cabinets but not in the uppers.

Hi thanks for ur response
This cubitac line doesn’t come with dB 27 only 27 I would have to put in pull outs which I don’t want. As it’s double the action to access one pot
Secondly I don’t want to rearrange the top wall cabinets I want the 21 single doors. Lastly I’m doing single pulls not double

Doesn’t need to line up. But easily can. We waffled with same decision for ages. We ended up adjusting a couple of things to make it work and line up so upper cabinets matched bottom cabinets but it isn’t symmetrical as one side has more upper cabinets than the other all together

Asymmetry is cool.

No 9" cabinet for trays. Put the trays in an over the refrigerator cabinet, assuming that is within your reach.

On one side of our oven is a cabinet for trays and it’s amazing. We have trays on bottom and cutting boards on top. On the other side of the oven we have a pull out spice rack also awesome.

Symmetry should only be used in a kitchen if it is a spice.

what does "db" stand for?

It’s more important to have symmetry (or balance) for upper cabinets. Nobody will pay too much attention to the lowers.

I love tray cabinets, though.

what does "db" stand for?

Drawer base, I assume

Thanks, Sammy.

Sheldon and Amy won a Nobel prize for asymmetry.

I eliminated the only corner in my kitchen so that I could have larger drawer bases on either side of the corner. To make this work you would need 3" of fill in the corner which leaves you 9" to add to the drawer base on the right. If you can slide the range to the left, you would then have a 33" drawer base on either side. One could be a two-drawer base for small appliances, tall pots or a chef's drawer.

Please post a 2D layout of the kitchen so we can see it best.

I also would not do 21" wide uppers. Too wide.

What does the other wall of cabinets look like? And yes, a 2D layout would be great so we can see how everything relates.

I think the current layout on that wall could work but I'd make the 24" DB to the right of the stove have more shallower drawers so that you can store cooking utensils and spices in them with spice drawer organizers. I'd probably do a 5-5-5-15 or a 5-5-5-5-10 configuration (or whatever your cabinet company uses; that is the IKEA config). The upper cabinet to the right of the stove can be used for cooking oils and spice overflow.

Also, you need to map your kitchen storage before making a final cabinet decision. List everything you need stored and place it in the kitchen where it needs to go for the most efficiency. Make your cabinet decisions based on that. Don't be haphazard in planning YOUR specific storage needs.

IMO that and appliances are where any good kitchen design starts. If you post a to scale floor plan you might be surprised at the ideas that come . I have never found tray cabinets useful unless it is wide enough to divide into sections otherwise every time you need on you have to take out all or half of them come out anyway. The uppers in this plan are done with IMO no regard for what will go in them and I am pretty sure this could be better.

I love all ur ideas will submit a plan a bit later. Thanks

I can do this circled area for this wall for the top And the base for 3o Tho I think left of stove I have 39 inches. My cabinet line only goes till 36 for double door. So should I split it 27 and 12. Or 24 and 15. Or 36 and 3 inch filler ?
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Hi thanks so much but my corner cabinet is being for a lazy Susan so I only have 39 inches to work with. What are those brands u listed ? Cabinet lines ? Bec I’m limited with what the builder is allowing me to use.

Thanks so much I will hav e a look!

I had a similar issue if I wanted to center my range and island in my L shaped kitchen. But 2 KDs strongly recommended centering the range between the cabinets and keeping the uppers symmetrical and the same door width around the kitchen.

Based on your second layout, you have space for 33" uppers and a 24" and 36" drawers on either side of the stove. But you need to be able to live with the asymmetrical base cabinets that don't align with the upper cabinets for symmetrical uppers.

I don’t understand the need for symmetry at the lower cabinets when the upper cabinets already make that wall asymmetrical.

What cabinets did you have in your last kitchen? What didn’t fit?

Symmetry might be hardly noticeable once there’s clutter on the countertops, because clutter isn’t generally symmetrical.

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My lazy susan is crucial even though it takes up space. Without it, I couldn’t reach—or even see—into the backs of corner cupboards.

Lower cabinets and uppers do not need to align. They rarely do. The eye level view is at the uppers. There is mirror symmetry and then there is Dynamic Symmetry. Symmetry is balance. A ballerina in the Arabesque position is balanced, but not axial symmetric, which is much more lively and exciting and not obvious or boring.

Right ur all making sence. I’m going to keep this all in mind and will meet my deisgner again thanks all!

I hope your designer understands. Too often, if they have not been introduced to the concept, they reject it. I'd be glad to talk with your designer. Where do you live?