range over stacked cooktop and under mount oven? Hestan range 36” ?

4 years ago

I need a cooktop over oven configuration . I am looking for gas cooktop and uncertain about oven source of heat (gas/ electric). I was considering cooktop (bertazzoni that i have I like) over miele 30” oven. I want to consider a range. I would appreciate any advice. And-

Anyone have experience with a Hestan range 36”?

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4 years ago

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Do a range. Bosch induction. Or BlueStar gas. Much simpler and cheaper. And better cooking.

The clearance issues with cooktops over wall ovens puts all of the responsibility for those clearance issues onto you. Not all cooktops and wall ovens are compatible. Many are not. The math and install is up to you. GE will only tell you that certain of their cooktops work over certain GE wall ovens. It’s the same with Electrolux, or Thermador, or any brand.

NO one will assume the responsibility for being compatible with someone else’s brand. That’s on you. And every manufacturer reserves the right to make changes that don’t show up on current specs. You may end up with paperweights that don’t fit, even if you do your math right from the specs.

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User
4 years ago
State this with greater clarity. It’s much to bounce around confusing. If you need a cooktop and walk oven, you are limiting yourself to ones from the same manufacturer that they say will work together. No one else will warrant any combination of off brands working together.
Frank Schimel
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4 years ago
I never heard that. I had no idea that anyone suggested that a cooktop and undercounter oven had to be same manufacturer? Seems odd? That being said, I thank you for the comment and will research further,
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Frank Schimel
Original Author
4 years ago
looks like an issue only if doing gas oven under gas cooktop. if separate units, i was going for miele electric under bert gas.
Frank Schimel
Original Author
4 years ago
hmmmm...now i see lots of comments saying gas line may interfere below, so now wondering even more if anyone likes the hestan 36” range?
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IMO a wall oven is exactly that meant to be installed in aw all for ease of use if you are putting it under a cooktop why the heck pay for 2 pieces when a good range will do the job I have a Betazzoni range 36” all gas and convection oven I also have double wall ovens all ectric with convection I would just do a Bert I think you can get them with gas and electric oven
Frank Schimel
Original Author
4 years ago
The reason I preferred the two is for cleanliness of diesign (continuation of the counter top...), And many nice ranges stick out or have such a high btu that I might need a larger (less sleek) and noisier vent fan (i had selected miele da3496). Also Bertazzoni ranges get a lot of ocmpliants on houzz. But I am interested in informed comments on

BlueStar Sealed Burner Series RCS36SBV2NG

36 Inch Pro-Style Gas Range or the hestan.
Frank Schimel
Original Author
4 years ago
Sounds like thermadore or fischer paykel make it work but the reviews for these brands are pretty scary. Any one have a fp cooktop or oven? My appliance store said he heard bad things about Hestan but not sure if I believe him...
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4 years ago
In Europe, buying a separate cooktop and wall oven is a very common configuration. So, if you are in that market, I wouldn't hesitate. But in the US, manufacturers don't really plan for this particular configuration. Wall ovens often are too tall, resulting in the door being too close to the floor and the top of the appliances hitting the cooktop.

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4 years ago
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We believe our 36" 5-Burner Dual Fuel Range - KRD Series is the answer to all your problems, @Frank Schimel! https://home.hestan.com/product/36-5-burner-dual-fuel-range/

The Hestan 36” range offers the patent-pending CircuFlame™ burner – the same powerful burner featured on the award-winning Hestan Commercial restaurant equipment. On the other end of the spectrum, the simmer flame setting on the surrounding burners ensures a gentle, non-flickering flame of 500 BTUs for your most delicate sauces. The high-performance oven features nine oven modes to perfectly complement your cooking style, and the MarquiseDisplay™ gives you a chef-friendly digital display – conveniently inset right in the oven handle.

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