Wax paper lining a cake pan?
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Miele DW Didn't Clean Cake Pans !!!
Comments (27)I will relate my experience with my DW bought in 1996 and this current one purchased in 2006. For the previous one Electrasol tabs with jet dry cleaned just fine, but they created a lot of suds. If I opened the door there was at least 1/2 inch of suds on top of the water. I stopped using them and switched to Electrasol powder with chlorine bleach. The manual for my previous DW said not to use Gels or liquids so I never tried those in that machine. I don't care for the scent of Cascade powders so I've tried them but usually won't buy them due to the scents. Anyway the new machines allow you to use tabs or liquids because there are settings for different types of detergents. The machine will adapt its behavior to the settings. If you use a tablet with rinseAid built in it will not dispense rinse aid and it will also adjust the cycle for hard tablets. I have say that on the box of tabs containing Jet Dry it says that you may still need to use a separate rinse aid if your water is hard. I used the the tabs with jet dry which were purchased in 2007 and there were no suds, and use the new red ball tab also without suds. That said I don't think there are any more detergents sold in the USA that contain rinse Aid. The new formulation of Electrasol tabs does not contain jet dry rinse aid, at least not by reading the description on the box. I still have boxes of the old formula and have compared the composition of the tablet as described on the box. The old formula: white layer contains detergent blue layer contains presoakers the little white ball contains Jet Dry rinse agent. The new Red Ball formula: white layer contains detergent the blue layer contains Jet Dry rinse agent action the little red ball contains presoakers. the tab contains etch protector From this I don't think containing Jet dry and having Jet Dry rinse agent action is the same thing. Maybe I am being to critical but the box says "3n1 100% clean plus Jet-Dry shine" I also use Electrasol gel pacs and get very good results. These also have Jet Dry rinse agent action and enzymes in the gel. The only thing about pacs and most tablets is that you cannot control the dosage. I did a dissolve test using a water temp of 104F which is the temp of the short wash. I shook the solution in a bottle which may not be as vigorous as the action inside the DW. I found that: ElectraSol tabs would not dissolve in 104F. Cascade powder would not dissolve in 104F Miele tabs completely dissolved at 104F ElectraSol powder almost completely dissolved at 104F. The manual says not to use tabs with the short wash. So at least with this current model it has sittings for tabs so I guess Miele is saying you can use them. If anyone knows of a detergent that still contains rinse agent I would like to know. It seems that all detergents now contain some form of etch protector and not rinse aid..I wonder if there is something in these new formulations that increases the chances for etching, thus the protection has been included to help mitigate? One last thing. I have used Electrasol powder with chlorine bleach in this machine. I used it in the previous one. It works for normal soil, but it does not always clean stuck on baked on items as well as an enzyme detergent. A few weeks ago I tried Electrasol Gel - also with chlorine bleach. It left a white film covering everything in the DW - don't know why but I am not using it again. So for Gels Cascade Gel and, Electra Sol Gel pacs(no CB) work good in my water conditions. Electra Sol tabs the old and new formulations work well, Miele tabs work well, Cascade action Paks work well. Ecover left grit all over everything including the insides of the machine...NEVER AGAIN. Cascade powder works very well too I just don't like the scent I smell when I dispense it....See MoreWax Paper extinct !?
Comments (35)Yikes! I'm in So Cal too (down San Diego way, not Los Angeles or Pasadena)--I'll have to check my local grocery stores, WalMart, Target and Costco to see if they still carry it! A box lasts me a long time and I always have a spare, but if wax paper is going the way of the dodo bird, I'll have to stock up and have two or three spares. If Kathleen can't find any, and if I DO find some, I'll be glad to pick up a box for Kathleen and Driftwood and mail it to both. Just let me know (the email doesn't always make a connection, so post here). Smiles, Sooz...See MoreNeed advice - Baking a cake in a loaf pan
Comments (15)Recipe below. Natal, I've never had the need to flour a cake pan. Is there a reason to flour them? I also detest the taste of flour on a cake. Are the pans floured just to get the cake out of the pan? I usually don't do that, but if so, then I'll flour it tomorrow. Amy said to spray the parchment paper, so I'm going to do that just to be on the safe side. :) Red Velvet Cake 1 box White Cake Mix 1 small box Instant Chocolate Pudding 2 c. Milk 2 Eggs 1 small bottle Red Food Coloring 1/4 c. Oil Mix these ingredients well. Mix together 1 T. Vinegar 1 t. Baking Soda Add the above to the batter. Beat well. Bake in 2 round cake pans or a 9 x 13 cake pan, at 350. Frosting recipe below. Back to baking the cake, this is when it gets tricky. This cake can fall if you're not careful. For round cake pans, it generally takes about 20-30 min., until toothpick comes out clean. For a 9 x 13 pan, it could take up to 45-50 minutes. When the cake looks done, crusted around the edges, very GENTLY take it out of the oven and do toothpick check. I mean you have to be very gentle. I learned the hard way. lol. Frosting: 8 oz. softened Cream Cheese 1 stick softened Butter 1 t. Vanilla 1 lg. bag Powdered Sugar or to consistency..you want it thick but not too thick you can't stir it. Mix all together and spread on cooled cake. Sprinkle with coconut if desired. If you make a 9 x 13, you'll have a lot of frosting left, even if you put it on thick. And you want to put the frosting on thick! This cake is so rich & heavy and when you eat it you'll think you've died and gone to Heaven. No kidding! You'll see why it won a blue ribbon!...See MoreDo you or don't you? Greasing sides of cake pan
Comments (14)Rob, have you tried the pan release goo most of us decorators use? There's no recipe, really. It's basically, equal parts flour, shortening, and just a squirt of a neutral oil to make the mixture easier to brush onto a pan. Btw, for me, greasing a pan, depends on the type of cake I'm baking. It's not a one-size-fits-all. Pans for angel food, chiffon, and sponge-type cakes, should never be greased, or the batter will not have anything to 'hold on to,' and cakes will not rise to their full volume. However, most other cakes get the lube treatment (If Jessica were reading this, she'd go blind). And when I do grease a pan, I only grease the bottoms, lightly. Then, I line the bottom with a round of parchment, leaving the sides alone. Once the cake is out of the oven, I run a thin, metal spatula around the sides of the pan to loosen, and let the cake cool in its pan for 5 to 10 minutes. Then, I put a piece of parchment on top of cake to cover, flip the pan over onto a cooling rack, remove pan and allow cake to cool completely. The parchment on the wire rack is there to keep cake from sticking to it, plus it makes it easier to transfer to your serving platter later. Some bakeries use food-grade plastic wrap (instead of parchment) for this purpose, wrapping the cakes (while still hot) to retain moisture. Assuming I'm going to store a cake for more than a few days, I'll wait until cake has completely cooled, before wrapping it in plastic wrap. Then, I'll add a layer of foil, before storing it in the fridge or freezer. If you're planning on icing the cake the same day it was baked, ignore the previous rant. Sol...See Morechloebud
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