RE: silver mist deodara in full sun all day.in the lower south carolina I dont have silver mist and not in SC. But have a similar clone, 'cream puff', and it gets a lot of sun and seems to be ok. But not 'full sun all day' I think of "full sun" as 6-8 hours of direct sun. Lots of things can take "full sun" here but wouldn't do as well in an exposed sunrise to sunset situation. At least where I live (and probably you too) that's a whole other ball game. I think I've heard B-boy and others mention that the white tip deodars can be a little more delicate. I reccomend a spot with at least some minimal shade for some part of the day. Also, even if people in the PNW or Adrian Bloom in the UK can put things in all day sun doesn't mean you can in Southern US.

Do you mean Snow Sprite...your inside note said Snow White? :-) There are three deodoras in this plant series.....Cream Puff, Silver Mist and Snow Sprite. The primary characteristic that is common to all of them is their coloration. In my warm climate they are all a soft almost sea foam green color with lighter colored tips in spring and early summer. Cream Puff is the largest.....considered a true dwarf. Mine grows about 12" or so a year. It's currently a 10' tall and wide cone shaped tree. People love that its needles stay pretty soft to the touch. Mine gets morning shade but full blown afternoon blazing sun. It went through our two record scorching summers just fine...with virtually no needle burn. But the creamy colored tips turned more of a golden yellow until finally turning green. Next is Silver Mist. The coloration is almost identical to Cream Puff. It also is as fat as it is tall. Maybe even fatter. In fact if its growth rate wasn't closer to 6-12" per year, you couldn't hardly tell Cream Puff and Silver Mist apart. It's tips also are not quite as creamy. This tree also takes the heat and sun really well. The third is Snow Sprite. It's the baby of the group. It grows at a much slower rate.....maybe 3-6" a year. It's colors are also lighter, staying almost completely creamy colored for a lot of the year. This one does burn, so I've had to grow it in fairly significant shade. And it's needles are also stiffer to the touch. Hope that helps. Mark

look up CIS.. and stockmans dwarf .... and humphrey's gem ... full names somewhere below ... there are some very dwarf mugo .... below is 2 pics of a similar type bed ... and further below is a list of what i have planted there... good luck researching zone info ... ken the list... alpha repeats due to location in the bed ... and some are mistakes.. lol ... they need to be moved due to 6 inches of growth ... live and learn... AND SOME OF THE CHAMS ARE DEAD .. SINCE THEY HAVE LITTLE SENSE OF HUMOR ABOUT ZONE 5 ... AS WELL AS ALL THE LAWSONS ... carp caps .... they really dont get the idea of zone pushing in zone 5 .... never really got to the point of growth rate issues ... since they have just been burning to death for years....: Pinus parviflora 'Adcock's Dwarf' Abies balsamae 'Nana' 1 IN Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Aurea' Picea glauca 'Conica Baby' Pinus banksiana 'Pedula' Pinus banksiana 'Schoodic' Pinus banksiana 'Wisconsin' Pinus mugo 'Meg's Short Needle' Pinus mugo 'Mops' Tsuga canadensis 'Popeleski' Abies concolor 'Compacta' Abies concolor 'Scooter' Abies koreana 'Cis' Juniperus communis 'Compressa' -- the tall thin one ... Picea abies 'Dumpy' Picea abies 'Little Gem' Picea glauca 'Gnome' Pinus banksiana 'Chippewa' Pinus mugo 'Valley Cushion' Pinus parviflora 'Hagaromo' -- gift for pots Pinus parviflora 'Ogon Janome' Pinus parviflora 'Pentaphylla Azuma' Pinus strobus 'Ned's Broom' Pseudotsuga menziesii 'Blue Lullaby' Pseudotsuga menziesii 'Brooks' Tsuga canadensis 'Everitt Golden' Tsuga canadensis 'Jeddeloh' Tsuga canadensis 'Stockman's Dwarf' Juniperus horizontalis 'Golden Carpet' Juniperus horizontalis 'Golden Carpet' Juniperus horizontalis 'Pancake' 3 9/16 Abies procera 'Prostrata' Acer palmatum 'Shishigashira' Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Alumii' Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Blue Surprise' Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Green Globe' Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Silber Star' Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Snow White' Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Treasure' Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Treasure Island' Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Aurea' Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Ceramic' Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Gold Fern' Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Golden Fernspray' Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Gracilis' SEE C.o.AUREA Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Nana Lutea' Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Saffron Spray' Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sparkles' Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Tsukumo'SOLD AS OBTUSA??? Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Verdonii' Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Compacta Variegata' Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Cream Ball' Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Gold Dust' Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Gold Pin Cushion' Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Golden Sands' Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Tsukumo' --PROPER NAME Chamaecyparis pisifera 'White Pygmy' Ginkgo bilobal 'Variegata' Picea abies 'Dan's Dwarf' Picea abies 'Humphrey's Gem' Picea abies 'Wagner' Picea glauca 'Witches Broom' Picea orientalis 'Tom Thumb' Picea sitchensis 'Papoose' Pinus contorta 'Mt. Hood Marble' Pinus mugo 'Mitsch Mini' Pinus parviflora 'Tanima No Yuki' Pinus parviflora 'Toyo Nishiki' Pinus viginiana 'Fanfare' AND DONT FORGET.. THESE GROW HERE.. ITS FOR YOU TO DECIDE IF ZONE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU .... GOOD LUCK KEN

When deer attack (Ive lost about 7-8 trees in 4 years, there is a deer crossing sign in front of my house- a month ago a nice buck got nailed by a car, ended up next to the sign and within 24 hours someone had cut off the antlers), I generally let things play out, just as in nature. In 15 years (or less) they may look totally normal (especially with a little help). The majority of my trees have character when I buy them (various reasons, but mostly Im a cheaparse) - just as a tree that survives a "brutal" deer attack will (Ken's "the stranger the better club?"). Do not underestimate Ma Nature, she will general surprise you in a positive way. Im not as concerned about having "perfect" or "perfectly symmetrical", etc tree as I am about growing a large and healthy specimen. I understand if you dont feel this way, just saying the trees may come thru this fine in the long run. Im looking forward to this "tri trunk" Vanderwolf Pyramidal Pine(was 6') that got snapped to the ground by a deer two years ago. How about some pics of the damage?