Kitchen layout Advice please
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Comments (23)Oh, so many helpful replies that my mind is reeling. Thank you all so much! Blfenton, yes, there are 53" between the sink and the island, and 38" between the range and the island. I'll post pics in a few minutes. I'm having a hard time picturing the triangular island, but I like the idea. Between the end of the sink run cabinet and the sliding door is 32" of wall with an electrical outlet and light switches. That is where the cat fountain and feeding dish are at present. It is unlovely. Davidrol, lol! Yes, I am practical. I want the kitchen to be pretty, but first I want it to function without smoke alarms going off and smells lingering. I don't want to keep opening and closing those annoying bifold doors in the garage entry. Note to self: Look into replacing those with different doors. Herbflavor, aha! I seem to have an acute lack of vision, which is why I came here in the first place. Okay, I will try to commit that to paper. Thank you for opening these possibilities for me. Rosie, I am trying to get my head around moving the doorway, mostly because I don't know what you mean by "bottom wall." The sink wall? Yes, a good counter and storage. Island or perimeter, I have no preference. I'll just have to play around and see what will feel the best. The thought of reorienting the island has just made my jaw gape open. I honestly hadn't considered it. Doh! More soon....See MoreKitchen layout advice please!!
Comments (4)Right now, you don't have a decent Prep Zone. The two key components of a functional Prep Zone are water and a bare minimum of 36" of workspace (42" or more is much, much better). In addition, the Prep Zone should be next to or across from the Cooking Zone. The DW should not be in the Prep Zone. Without a water source on the island, it will not work well as a primary Prep Zone. You will end up prepping next to the sink - regardless of your "plans" In your layout, you have a barrier island b/w the refrigerator and Cooking Zone (where the cooktop is) as well as no true connection b/w the Prep Zone and Cooking Zone. Island...with one set of cabinets in the island, your island should be at least 41.5" deep: 1.5" counter overhang + 24" deep cabinets + 1" thick decorative door/end panel + 15" seating overhang Depending on how you arrange seating, it may need to be at least 8' wide. MamaGoose's layout is much better! Please see the following: Kitchen Design FAQ Threads (they will help you understand the comments you receive): FAQ -- Kitchen work zones, what are they? http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/3638270/faq-kitchen-work-zones-what-are-they FAQ -- Aisle widths, walkways, seating overhangs, work and landing space, and others http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/3638304/faq-aisle-widths-walkways-seating-overhangs-work-landing-space-etc FAQ -- How do I plan for storage? Types of Storage? What to Store Where? http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/3638376/faq-how-do-i-plan-for-storage Looking for layout help? Memorize this first. http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/2699918/looking-for-layout-help-memorize-this-first . Asking for layout help: How do I ask for Layout Help and what information should I include? http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/2767033/how-do-i-ask-for-layout-help-and-what-information...See MoreKitchen Layout Advice Please
Comments (22)Continue… PREPARATION: Most of us prep between the sink and the cook top (you may not). The refrigerator is a few steps away from this prep area, and so is the cook top. Your work triangle with the addition of the prep sink is small and very efficient. You won't do a lot of walking to get from the cook top to the fridge and from the fridge to the prep sink and from the prep sink to the cook top. Great work flow and very efficient. Your prep sink against the edge of the island limits its usefulness because you only have staging on one side of the sink. Your island is small so you may not have a choice. COOOKING/BAKING: You have counter space to the right and left of your cook top so you can stage items to add while cooking. There is very little counter to the right of your oven cabinet to place trays or bake ware going into and coming out of the ovens. You’ll have to use the island and with seating this can be tricky (don’t want to burn anyone). PROVIDE SERVICE: The fridge location is close to the island seating and close to the dining room. The counter top left of the fridge is small for taking ref/f items in and out of your ref/f. Serving meals from your cook top and /or ovens you’ll plate on the island or fill serving dishes to be delivered to the table for self service. You’ll get dishes and glasses from your main sink area to the island, breakfast booth, or dining room. CLEAN UP: After the meal all of the dishes, glasses, and serving pieces will be delivered to the main sink area staged to be washed or rinsed and put into the dishwasher, or staged on the opposite side of your sinks to be dried after they are washed and put away. You have plenty of counter to the right for this purpose but almost none to the left. This isn’t your exact scenario but this is how this kitchen and most kitchens work....See MoreKitchen Layout Advice Please!!! Is sink too far from refrigerator?!
Comments (14)Thank you so much to everyone who has taken the time to add their suggestions/thoughts! My husband is taking an entirely hands off approach to this remodel so it's nice to have others weigh in with their expertise and advice since I have no background in home improvement! HU- 187528210- I definitely see your point about moving the fridge to the left to make a tighter work triangle but I do agree with chispa that moving it to that location might interfere with the doorway to the laundry/mudroom. decoenthusiaste- Thank you for the diagram! It helps to see the triangle with measurements included. I did try moving the range and ovens to where the refrigerator is in one iteration of the design but worried that if I kept it there, it would be an issue if the oven door was open when one of the kids was running from the mudroom into the living room (behind the north wall). I also thought it would be nice if the refrigerator could be more easily accessed from the dining and living areas. palimpsest- You're right, a couple extra steps beyond what is recommended hopefully won't make too much of a difference! And as I said to decoenthusiaste above, you totally called it on the limitations of the range and ovens being relocated to the wall where the fridge is! kevin9408- now you've got me feeling insecure about my "kitchen desert!" lol Early on I had considered doing an island but, like I mentioned in my original post, I decided that keeping my kids on the perimeter of the kitchen while I cook might be preferable to having them in the kitchen while I cook. I've also seen so many gorgeous kitchens with islands but always think, "man, what a pain to have to walk all the way around that island every time you need to get something out of the fridge." Maybe there's an island solution to both of those problems that i haven't thought of but so far I haven't been able to make it work in my space :( Perhaps a mini island in the middle? Like a lone palm tree on my desert :) H202- Thanks for keeping it real. You are also right, it is so easy to get caught up in these details during the design process that become complete non-issues once the job is complete! I probably won't even notice the extra few steps to the fridge! But I gotta say, now I don't know if all of the wasted space in the center of the kitchen that kevin9408 pointed out will be something that looks particularly odd and bothers me when it's done. Will try to keep your wise words in mind though and move on:)...See Moreemilyam819
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