Arrowhead Alpinus mentioned something else about the Picea abies 'Millcreek Broom': PICEA GLAUCA 'MILLSTREAM BROOM'. To tell the truth I got this just for the name, presumably it goes back to Linc Foster. It.s an erect dwarf plant that is a pincushion of stiff needled fox tailed shoots each topped by a prominent bud giving the general impression of a dwarf Picea abies.

What's "FWB" - "Free Wheeling Broads" "/Boys"? I also find it distressing to hear a stream of what we considered foul language coming out of the mouths of many young people ... as part of their routine ... and I must confess that it troubles me more when it comes out of the females' mouths. I learned at home (from Dad - Mom was sick from when I was about 6, and Grandma was old and "sexless" ... and Dad talked around the subject, mainly) and I accepted ... that, as someone here said, "It takes two to tango", that pregnancies don't happen all by themselves (at least, they didn't in those days) ... and even now, teens don't get pregnant all alone (not being interested in the "in vitro" game). I learned that, while guys were inclined to try to get all that they could ... that if one was responsible for pregnancy, that he bore equal responsibility with the girl. Probably/usually more. That there was the risk of some rather nasty diseases, as well. We used to say that a pregnancy, if the girl chose to keep the child, which was unusual in earlier generations, it would pretty well ruin whatever hopes she might have had for a career ... but such wasn't so for the guys ... who seldom felt a responsibility to provide for the child. I remember Dad saying that, in discussion with a female friend when he was young, she'd said that the girls had to not only deny the persistent guy ... they had to deny their own feelings,as well. Not very fair, that. Shouldn't responsibility be shared? Possibly, after the child was born, when it was a week old, she should have taken it to the guy's house, saying that it was his turn to look after it for a week. I remember my wife telling how disappointed? disgusted? her Mom, who'd initiated divorce and was nearing retirement was that a substantial number of the men that she'd dated aimed at going to bed, if not on a first date, often shortly afterward. Maybe it's related to the length of time that movies show a scene on the screen ... if more than a few seconds for each, many modern folks feel that it's too slow ... and boring. When they get old ... and life slows down some ... do you think that modern people'll find life so unutterably boring ... ... that suicide may seem an interesting alternative? Good wishes for keeping your life in focus ... and perspective ... treating yourself and others with respect .. and encouraging the kids to follow similar patterns ... when you have the opportunity. ole joyful P.S. Many seem to feel that people, like machines, exist to serve them, if they can make it happen, and that while they are doing such explotation and after, they owe little more duty of fair treatment to the person than to the machine. Which we've pretty well seen exemplified in the way in which corporations treat their staff ... and suppliers ... and, often, clients - though if they treat them too badly, they may lose their opportunity to serve that client in future. o j

Mama, Good to see you also. That kitchen in her newest house looks like it's migrating toward the OTK, but with big industrial style light fixtures, to fill those high ceilings. Not a crayon-box color in sight, yes? Here's another version of that house and its story, which I was writing when Mama Goose posted her URL...https://www.estliving.com/the-brick-home-of-diane-keaton/ "Here's a recent home of Keaton (yes, another one). Look at the kitchen. Paint bricks white and what do you get? _Faux subway tiles_. And...dig those honkin' big pendants! The skylights, the pendants, the beams, the painted brick. Hmm. How reminiscent of ... what, a factory floor? A city loft in an old building? And it was designed from scratch! How true is this kitchen, folks? And more importantly, would you enjoy this space more than the tiled Spanish one?" Here's the context for that tiled kitchen peninsula...the original Keaton Kitchen Architectural Digest article, I think...2004 Dec. Architectural Digest.... https://www.architecturaldigest.com/gallery/diane-keaton-bel-air-home-slideshow Look hard at the kitchen, folks. Delete the tiles and the vintage tablewear. What do you see in that kitchen? I'll give you a hint...read the early postings on this thread. ___ Try this for some more Keaton... https://www.architecturaldigest.com/gallery/diane-keaton-home-slideshow Is this the same house? No actual kitchen shown, but this looks like a cousin in house design if not the one I was looking for. Note the quotation around the top of library walls. Fam. room has groups of single-colored vintage tableware just as were shown in Architectural Digest, but they look different here, yes? Hope your eyes don't bleed here, Holly. Photo is calculated to be more subtle, I suppose, but it might be same stuff displayed differently. And red ceramics are not shown, at least not in photo. ___ On another note, I just happened to be in Red Wing, Minn. today. In an antiques shop, they had a number of Red Wing Pottery pieces to look at up close. They still give me some good feelings, despite all the years since my extended family set table with them. Keaton shows us that homeowners can blend rough beams, fave sayings, vintage plates, &c with the OTK. This is one true thing.

Since posts are composed WYSIWYG the preview feature is real time. To delete a picture from a post as you are composing it use delete or backspace on the keyboard as you would do with text. Something that bugs me about this forum and it is the same as it was with GW is that when "YOU" post to a thread it shows as newly posted to (highlighted). Your own post should drive a thread to the top but it should only be highlighted if someone other you has posted to it alerting you to new posts. I dont need to be alerted to the fact that I have posted and the only way to removed the highlighting is to visit the thread just after posting which is kind of silly if you had just posted there.