laying hardwood over concrete slab
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Comments (6)The substrate should have been corrected to the wood manufacturer's guidelines. What we look to achieve is 'flat' to within a + or - figure in ten feet (usually)...the manufacturer states what the + and - figure will be. No on grade concrete slab in residential home construction is perfectly flat or can be made that way; most have the variance you describe. It shouldn't be that way, but it is in many instances. However, it is the installer's job to bring the slab up to the manufacturer's guidelines at the customer's expense or refuse to install over it until it is corrected by someone else. You need to discuss your unhappiness with your installer and go from there. Once you get a response, you'll have an idea what your next step might be. Sorry about your floor....See Moretrying to lay hardwood flooring over asbestos
Comments (5)There is a simple test that will determine if in fact you are facing the potential removal of "cutback" adhesive. Apply boiling water to a small area of the area in question. If the adhesive blisters and becomes liquified, IT IS NOT CUTBACK ADHESIVE, and can be conventionally removed. If it is not affected, IT IS CUTBACK ADHESIVE, and you'll need some special softeners and cautions to remove. Google cutback adhesive removal. The product I've used was an orange oil....See MoreInstalling Hardwood over hardwood, and building up the other areas
Comments (4)Yes, it is being installed perpendicular. I know it's not the ideal... but in the interest of time and budget, it's what we've landed on. We are likely going to do an engineered floor on top, to eliminate a little bit of the extra height. I would (just for my own knowledge on what to expect) love to hear the cons of this method, even if we're likely to do it anyway :) And it is a wood subfloor - so just add plywood ontop of that until it becomes flush is what I'm hearing. Thank you!...See MoreInstalling hardwood over existing hardwood
Comments (3)The answer could be "Yes". It could be "No" or it could be "maybe...it depends". The trick with this is that new hardwood does not like sitting over top of OLD finishes...like polyurethane. And new hardwood needs FLAT. So the chances are VERY high that you need to SAND DOWN your old hardwoods (to remove the finish AND to flatten any obvious areas of concern). That should cost you $2/sf. Now the fun part...getting patch down where it is needed. It is possible but old hardwoods don't normally like to have concrete patch put down on them. They can. But they aren't fond of it. The cement patch often cracks and disintegrates as those old floors move. You will still need patch = $1/sf (on the LOW end). The other fun thing is: you probably have to install the floors perpendicular to the old floors....which will be AGAINST the installation instructions/warranty (most hardwoods must be installed perpendicular to the joists...which would be your OLD hardwoods...but the NEW one's would be perpendicular to THOSE = parallel to your joists = against all "Best Practices"). The way around this = DIAGONAL (lay it at a 45deg. angle). This should increase your WASTE into the 15% range = 15% more expensive than anticipated. So if you add up all the "trouble" you will go to, you will be paying about the same or MORE to do this. Of course you could throw down some plywood over top the old hardwood = go ahead as a normal install. But that puts you too high---so your ONE option to do this "cheaply" is not on your list. Go ahead and remove those old hardwoods (I'm assuming they are so OLD that they cannot be sanded and refinished). Lay new plywood and then install the new hardwood. The cost to do this properly should add $2-$3/sf (labour and plywood included). If you do this the "cheater" way, it should cost you $2-$6/sf (that includes the diagonal install with extra waste) and lose you your warranty. After all that money for the hardwood and install, that would be a sad state of affairs....See MoreSJ McCarthy
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