Layouts for new & renovated bathrooms
We're planning a master suite addition that will also involve renovating our 2 existing full bathrooms. I'd love any feedback on the plans for the new master as well as the hall bath as proposed by our architect. I'm a bit worried that the hall bath (which will mostly serve our 2 very tall sons and a rare guest) is too small as proposed and the master is a bit too big.
For the hall bath, I'm already prepared to ask the architect to make the main door a barn or pocket door in order to avoid collision with the WC door (per some advice on another thread.) I'm wondering how I might be able to take advantage of the space that she's essentially blocked off due to the ceiling slope. Right now that space is actually a closet and I'd love to eke out as much storage space in the bath as possible.
On the master, I'm thinking of asking to bump the vanity closer to the door and use that space to include a shallow linen closet accessible from the hall hallway.
Does any of that sound sensible? Any other feedback or ideas?? I'm a total newbie to bathroom design having spent too many years obsessing about a tiny kitchen. Thanks!
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PROMark Bischak, Architect
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agosmalloldhouse_gw thanked Mark Bischak, ArchitectRelated Discussions
Bathroom renovation layout help
Comments (10)Nice! I love working through problems, probably why I'm having such a great, but exhausting, time with my kitchen remodel. I'm not an expert though. I was thinking about how the kids would know the tub area is occupied. I love our new fan timer, I think it would be great in an application like this. It is a light, fan, and nightlight in one. We wired ours so the fan and light only work together as it was added to allow light in the shower (we only had a vanity light for the whole room, so the shower was dark without a ceiling light). This way, to see in the shower you have to also ventaliate, and it turns off automatically. No need to remember anything! I think it would be great here. It ensures the kids vent the shower reliably, and that they don't run the fan all day. You could even wire in a little indicator light in each vanity area if you wanted too. Though in typing this out it occurs to me that in this scenario if the fan is running it's occupied. I guess the hard part would be trying to get the kids not to just walk in and press the 60 minute button, but I suspect they will quickly realize it sucks when the other one does that and doesn't turn it off manually when done....See MoreNew Kitchen Layout Feedback for a Philly Renovation
Comments (6)I like it. I think you're going to have good storage and a nice work flow. Definitely use boxes or furniture or something to simulate the island and do some play cooking to determine how wide you like your aisles to be. Some of us like a bit wider than the recommended 48", some less. I thought I was going for 54" but I recently decided to widen mine to 62". Some people might consider that too wide but I really like it. When facing the range, how long are the counters on the left and right sides? I ask because you may have room for a prep sink to the right of the range. That would make your kitchen even more efficient with all clean-up on island and all prep/cook on perimeter. Of course, the island could also be used for secondary prep, if needed. What is #6? It looks like an appliance of some kind? I would put the DW in #14 with the most used dishes and utensils in #21. This is especially important if you don't go with a prep sink on the perimeter. This way someone can prep on the closest path from refrigerator to stove without crossing over the clean-up person. And this also leaves your dishes closest to the dining area to make setting the table easier and the person doing that needn't enter the prep/cook zone. Make sure you do a deep enough overhang for seating. Here are the recommendations. Some folks here like the overhang a bit deeper than these so you might also want to mock up something to see what works best for you. Definitely don't go shallower. And the items stored under really do need to be items not needed often like, maybe, seasonal dishes and serving pieces because you would get tired of crawling under there to get things very often. I would use pull-out shelves so you can at least bring things closer to grab....See MorePlease help with Renovation Floorplan Layout ideas for new house
Comments (9)3onthetree Thanks so much for your feedback! as I explained above to isabellagracepan, the renovation will happen prior to moving in because we’re already in a temporary apartment and don’t want to live in the house with the dust etc created during a renovation. I agree with you entirely about seeing how we use the outside space. i love what you did about bumping a mudroom next to the garage! We’re seriously considering that. It’s tough bc we’re trying to balance living space vs more utilitarian spaces that are practical. For example, we have no need for an informal tv family room plus an entire room used for a formal living room. I wanted to clarify something on the floorplan that I realized wasnt on it from the listing green is the location of the laundry, side by side washer and dryer Purple is a full bathroom for the downstairs level. Vanity, toilet and shower. I was thinking since there’s currently a living room and family room, i could make 1 our tv watching space and the other a combo of dining room and small seating area (a couple of armchairs) that could be easily moved when entertaining a larger crowd. Thanks again for your help!...See MoreKithen Layout help, renovation with new construction
Comments (13)First IMO 10' ceiling in a kitchen is a waste. 9' is perfect take cabinets to the ceiling and they are close to useable at 10' not so much and if you do not take the cabinets to the ceiling then you either have a soffit (yuck) or you dust up ther e. You need an independant kitchen designer . Bigger is not always better in kitchen design so be careful about assuming that .I dislike walkin pantries and never use them in my designs .I often do a wall with fridge true pullout pantries in thta wall. When a client wants really huge kitchen I always tell them to just imagine making a simple pasta dinner with salad. How many steps to accomplish this simple meal. IMO your kitchen is too big I run a catering biz from my home my kitchen is 15 x13 with a huge fridge/ freezer column wall with coffee bar . I have an island with back to back sinks , this works for me when it is just my hubby and I cooking and when I have 4 or 5 others working in the space I have only 2 stools at the end of the island so you would need a bit wider room but then how does it function . Function trumps everything in kitchen design.To the left in this space is my range and all my pot and pan storge in large drawers spices and oils in the drawers you see on the left of the island...See More
Mrs Pete
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoHere's my suggestion ...
For the boys' bathroom -- yes, this is a small space:
- Since they're large boys, give them a nice big shower ... it'll fit nicely into that space to the left. Towels will have to hang on the back of the door.
- The vanity isn't exactly spacious, but it will allow them to have some drawer storage ... which is good because they don't have any other storage in the bathroom. I'd put a train rack over the toilet for their towels.
- The toilet is now over in a corner but not hidden away behind a door. Toilets-in-closets make the bathroom smaller /less comfortable, and it's harder to clean around doors.
- The door swing opens so that a boy can enter the room /step over in front of the toilet to close the door. The door-over-door issue /the enter, then step-around to reach the toilet problem disappears.
For the master -- yes, this is really too wide /you don't want a bunch of empty space in the middle, making the bathroom feel bloated and cold ... I'd reduce the space a bit and let that space open towards the bedroom. It could be a recessed spot for a dresser (or custom built-in drawers, or a built-in TV spot), or it could be a linen closet. While a linen closet in the master isn't ideal, it's better than NO linen closet at all. Other master thoughts:
- I repositioned the tub so it's under the window ... it makes for a nice sight line upon entering the room.
- The shower works well "up against" the boys' shower. Again, it's a nice big space, and it tucks in so nicely to this spot. It's out of the immediate sight line, and -- if you're going with glass -- it'll be a one-piece wall /no difficult corner joinings.
- I'd lose the toilet closet and place the toilet nicely out of sight behind a pony wall.
- This leaves you with a vanity that's actually a little bigger than the one you were showing. With no storage in this bathroom either, I'd lean towards a linen tower for storage ... this could be done in several different ways.
- Circulation works well in this layout ... note that you walk into the middle of the room, so everything's only a step away. In contrast, your original plan requires that you walk the length of the bedroom, then turn and walk the length of the bathroom to reach the toilet.
- Last thought: The bathroom door can now "park" in the little entry hallway ... nothing opens "over" anything else.
- Alternate thought: You could shorten the vanity /have a linen closet (or just shelves) opening towards the little bathroom hallway.
- Actual last thought: You have great windows in this bathroom.
Are you and your spouse on different wake/sleep cycles because if so, the fact the clothes closets are on one of your sleep sides will be an issue.
Agree ... even if your wake /sleep cycles are the same now, are you sure they'll stay the same?
Our walk-in closets are similar to yours, and they're right by my husband's side of the bed. I always lay my clothes out the night before because I hate tip-toeing over by his side to reach my clothes.
Barn doors do not offer the visual or audial or odorous privacy required
in a bathroom, and they kill wall space.I stayed in a hotel with a barn door on the bathroom once. It was enough to convince me that they're impractical. I might accept one on a pantry or laundry room ... where the door would stay open most of the time ... but a bathroom? Never.
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4 years agoWhat do you all think of these changes? I've shrunk the master bath a couple of feet; swapped the shower and tub to make room for a slightly larger shower and to avoid the spectacle of a giant picture window too close from my neighbors. (The window in my revision could be similar to clerestory windows on the first floor, at least the placement would be the same.)
Does a 12'8" stretch give me enough space for a freestanding tub and shower? I'm actually more inclined toward a built-in but need to do more research.
In the hall bath I built a longer shower into the far end; it will have accommodate the slope in the ceiling on this (existing) roofline. I also removed the separate W/C but would keep a half or full wall on the side of the shower to preserve a bit of possible privacy. Seems like this gives us more room for this bath overall.
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