Thanks for the replies. It is a beautiful flower, though, and I don't normally even like mauve tones, but there are enough other color shades in there that I love it. J&P sent a very nice-sized plant, and the rebloom rate and quantity is beating out most of my older roses. The cut flowers look lovely in a rose bowl or any vase that can support the blooms.

I have to agree that it's just generally floppy.

Interesting topic! Well I agree that Exotica is a superb bulb and one of the best!! I too have crossed it with papilio (like Kristi) as well as Mocca and I have strong vigorous seedlings. Just about anything you cross it with takes and it makes huge seedpods! I bought another this season as I noticed that not as many sites offer it these days.. (ETGBs) As for Elvas I have nothing but trouble with him!! He grows lovely leaves on two healthy bulbs and just as Salpal says, mine usually abort or reward me with very disappointing flowers. I acquired my first bulb as a mislabel and the flowers were just outstanding and I was in seventh heaven! Bought another and since then the flowers have been very disappointing but the bulbs themselves continues to carry on. Each year I threaten to get rid of them when I get another homely blooming and then I can't do that to such a healthy bulb! I just love my papilios and a few years back I lost a whole pot to the NFB so they do enjoy eating papilios! I think you've just been lucky! I am growing about 16 seedlings of my first cross of papilio x Exotic Star and one bloomed last Nov and I have one other that is large enough to bloom. Why the others are so much smaller is a mystery, same location and several community pots all with the same treatment. It just must be in the genes I find certain bulbs turn into work horses and others remain primadonnas.. I have two Party Poopers both healthy one is small even though it grows leaves and has bloomed twice in the past. The other is 3 times as large with 3 times the leaves and they are sitting side by side! I found a Chico from last year well rooted sending up a scape. I think I might try some aulicum pollen on Chico I wonder if anyone has tried this cross?? Donna

Hello and thank you for sharing your experiences. Here I am having the same issue. Almost 5 months ago while I was on vocation with my family suddenly I felt a sudden weakness of both arms which it lasted for 30-40 seconds. Then in a month it happened again and again; randomly. I also have some difficulty breathing but non of them are related to each other. Shortness of breath happens mostly when I go to sleep and it goes away while the weakness of arms has no such a time or any other sign that helps me to figure out what and why i did go to the doctor and after many test and check ups no diagnosis. However my doctor said it could be from the stress Today I had two episodes in a row while I was working with a little boy ( I am an ABA provider) Lately though I have been thinking if it’s related to the heavy begs that I carry all day long since travel from Staten Island-Brooklyn-Manhattan and back ( using public transportation) Does anyone have any idea about what age am thinking about? Furthermore, today I read that Hypothyroidism must be one of the causes that might be connected to arm weakness