Well, that really helps - eliminating the soulless orange wicker chair prospects! It's too bad shipping is so much because there are probably a bunch of them around the country sitting in stores. I wonder if some of us found them and asked to have them shipped to your nearest store, if they would?

What is your ceiling height? The concern with moving the recessed lights too far from the wall is that you will cast shadows onto the counters when standing in front of them trying to do prep work. It is less of an issue if you have high ceilings. Also, what size recessed fixtures will you use and what bulbs will you use in them? A 3 ft spacing does seem a bit close, if you happen to be using 6" fixtures. We are using the Cree CR6 LED bulbs (EcoSmart brand from Home Depot) in 6" fixtures and have a 4 ft spacing. We also have 9 ft ceilings. That provides a good amount of lighting for our kitchen. Unless you have ripped down your ceiling, you will need to be flexible. Once I started tearing into our ceiling, I had to revise our layout due to obstructions (joists, pipes, vents, braces, etc.). This post was edited by gpraceman on Sat, Aug 3, 13 at 14:37

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I'm responding partly to bump this up so other people who grow roses into trees might see it and respond. It seems like there are a few limiting factors here that might make a rose in your tree problematic. First, the amount of sun (morning and a bit in the afternoon) is fine for a rose not obstructed by the tree's shade, but it will likely prove to be too shady for many varieties of rose when they are shaded by the tree. Second, there is a risk that some of the varieties of rose that will successfully climb the tree might overwhelm it -- and yet others might not be vigorous enough to manage the climb. A final factor is your aesthetic vision, which seems to be very organized, with a lot of clean lines. A rose going up a tree won't climb the trunk, but instead will be planted somewhere on the north side of the tree at an adequate distance from the trunk, to avoid root competition. The rose will grow towards the light (south) and in the process (hopefully) scramble through the tree. This creates a beautifully wild, bushy visual aesthetic -- not a neatly clipped, clean-lined one. If that is what you are looking for, then try it! It will definitely be a matter of trial and error. There are some great images of roses growing into trees on this forum. Marianne in Sweden (mariannese) posted a nice photo of her Chloris growing into a plum tree on this thread: [https://www.houzz.com/discussions/favorite-albas-dsvw-vd~5607498?n=19[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/favorite-albas-dsvw-vd~5607498?n=19) and somewhere there is an image of the hybrid musk rose Pax growing up into trees as well. If I were you, I would look for something that will tolerate some shade. Consider growing it in a large container until it is big enough to make a good run at getting up the tree. Finally, I would prune the tree with the goal of opening it up a bit internally, to let light get to the rose. As an alternative, you could train a relatively shade tolerant rose on the wall behind the tree -- Madame Alfred Carriere gets very large, fits your color preference, and I've seen her bloom for friends on the north side of a house. Good luck!