How do I remove a shower prefab, without hurting vintage tile beneath?
Lucy
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How much have homes changed in 100 yrs and can I live without tho
Comments (22)"I was wondering why I was having trouble figuring out what material was used to make countertops 100 yrs ago...there were no countertops!" Welllllllll, not exactly! Get yourself a copy of Catharine Beecher's "The American Woman's Home", written in 1869, in which she advocated the fitted kitchen with "continuous work surfaces" (aka countertops). (Do ignore the religiosity and "moralizing", she was a woman of her time.) Find the version with the illustrations, you'll probably have to get it used. I was STUPID and lent mine out, and of course have never gotten it back! There are actually quite a few good books on kitchens and baths from ~100 years ago... Jane Powell's "Bungalow Kitchens" and "Bungalow Bathrooms" are very informative and cover a much wider range in time period and housing style than just bungalows, so the titles are deceptive. There are some fantastic photos of unrestored rooms, too. One of the great things about those books is that she has both "obsessive restoration" and "compromise restoration" options. Esther Schmidt's "Victorian Kitchens & Baths" has a couple of "slave to period" kitchens/baths, some "interpretation" kitchens/baths, and some "you gotta be freakin' kidding me" ones. :-) It's mostly just for the pictures though, there are some serious factual errors. Old House Journal and Old House Interiors often feature kitchens and baths as well. Sadly, the previous owner of our ca. 1900 millworker's house was a flipper who did some dreadful things in the name of "modernizing" so we're actually going to be going backwards on many things - the house is not really "worth" an all-out restoration (it would cost far, far more than the value of the house could ever be) but bringing back the charm and personality is important to us. As for what to live without that many people consider "mandatory" these days, speaking only personally... I can live without glassed-in showers big enough to wash an entire football team at once, steam showers, body sprays, jacuzzis, multiple sinks, more cabinetry than the average kitchen, the notion that there must be a minimum of one full bath per resident. I do admit that I miss the warming mats under tile floors, but that's a completely invisible addition if one is already remodeling, and it's not a catastrophic loss. I miss a separate shower and tub, but again, it's a luxury rather than a necessity. I can live happily without commercial appliances in the kitchen - I have to laugh at how many of those gigantic kitchens with $25,000 in appliances are used for little more than reheating takeout, and how many people insist they absolutely must have such lavish amenities to cook a decent meal when many of our grandmothers turned out delicious Sunday dinners for a dozen with a four-burner range and a tiny fridge with a shoebox-sized freezer compartment. (I have cooked professionally in a kitchen smaller than 10x10 furnished with home-sized appliances!) Granite countertops, enough lighting for a surgical suite, breakfast bars make my "why bother" list too. I can live without the oversized two-car garage I had in my previous house, although I miss its convenience and not having to scrape ice off my car; our Model-T-sized garage is being torn down (too expensive to repair) and being replaced with a small garden shed because that's really all we NEED. What I can't (or rather wouldn't, I've done so when I had to) live without in the kitchen is a dishwasher, a microwave, enough electrical outlets (and the capacity to have both the toaster and coffeepot on at once without blowing a circuit), a fairly basic stove and fridge, sufficient storage for basics and a functional layout. In the bathroom I absolutely require a tub in which one can take a decent bath, an adequate hot water supply and water pressure, a reasonable level of lighting and ventilation, and perhaps more important than anything else, a really good toilet! When we were househunting I did not consider any houses with only a single toilet - after one household bout of food poisoning, I required 1.5 baths!...See MoreRe-doing bad tile installation - remove Durock?
Comments (25)"The problem I have is that the kind of person who couldn't get a good install to a clean subfloor is not the kind of person who is likely to spend the time necessary to get the Durock clean enough to reuse." That was the point of my first post. An installer who buggers up an installation with pristine materials in a new installation will probably suffer more pain when trying to rebuild over once-used surfaces. "The new installers do not want to use the existing Durock." That is a very good sign. They want ownership and control of their work from start-to-finish. Have a good talk with them. They already know what happened with the first installation. But tell them your expectations. Tell them how the last installer failed to meet your expectations. Things to think about, and to possibly discuss with the installers: The tile pattern. Where center lines or grout lines will fall on the floor. Example, will a full tile be centered on the centerline of the floor, or a grout line? Discuss grout line width and what you expect for consistency throughout the floor. Discuss lippage between adjacent tiles. That Crossville tile has a pretty subtle pattern, but if you care how the veining in the tile flows, discuss it. Some people like the veining to flow in the same direction. Some prefer random. Again, you have a small floor and a subtle pattern...but it's worth thinking about. Some tile styles have a set number of patterns within that style, ie, there might be 14 different patterns in that style of tile. If they find repetition, let them know to not put two similar tiles next to one another in the same orientation.I'm not sure if your tile has repetition And again, with a small floor, it's not normally an issue. Many of the things I brought up might not apply to your installation. But discussions held before any thinset is mixed can eliminate frustrations down the road. They also show the installer that you're an interested party, and that you'll appreciate the effort they put towards giving you a quality installation. I'm not sure which finish you have on that tile, but there are grout release and sealing restrictions with the satin finish. You can find all that on the manufacturers website. Again, good luck!...See MoreHow to select tile (floor, shower) and shower pans
Comments (30)Hi tmnca! One thing to think about with the Kohler shower pans is whether you may ever be using a shower stool with legs. If you were to get a longer shower bench, the Salient may cause problems because the oval really does have quite a bit of "curb" to it, as shown in Badgergal's photo of her son's shower. With a small shower stool set in the center of the shower, it is fine. If you ever need a longer shower stool, the Bellweather gives you a surface not impeded with the raised oval. I does, however, have a slant to the overall shower floor, so that must be taken into account. I have seen the Bellweather in person. It is a non-slip surface. It almost felt like a surface that would make me trip - catching my foot if I did not pick it up and step. Like if I dragged the foot, it would catch and I would trip and fall. It was a funny feeling to the bottom, and I wondered how it would feel when wet. It was NOT going to feel slippery, though! As for tile in a shower floor, the other reason to have small tiles (besides the grout lines giving traction), is that the small tiles allow the tile layer to better cope with the slant toward the drain. Larger tiles only allow you to slant in one direction. The smaller the tile, the better it is for following contours on a floor that is flowing to a drain from all directions....See MoreVintage bathroom tile
Comments (46)If the accent tiles had been painted in place, the artist would probably have gotten paint on the grout. I don't see any. So although I don't know for sure, I'd guess that those are actual production accent tiles from the 1970s or so, maybe even into the 1980s. That kind of whimsical art was popular back then, kind of like psychedelic motifs were in the 1960s. The flowered tiles look like they were supposed to be used with more tiles below them. The other tiles would have had stems and leaves to complete the flower image. Similarly, maybe the "squiggle" tiles were designed to form a border of sorts when used with similar or identical tiles to the left and right. This is admittedly speculation, as I don't recall ever seeing those particular tiles in anyone else's home. Someday, a future generation will be posting to ask how they can tear out and replace the "dated" design features that are popular in houses today. :)...See MoreLucy
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