This is the old 27 inch microwave/oven. As you pass the oven you enter the dining room. Pantry is across from oven on other side of doorway. We were looking at 30 inch wall oven.

I have never seen islands that are 42 - 44" high. That would be a a major visual barrier in any space and pretty uncomfortable for anyone to use, other than tall NBA basketball players.

Do you mean bar height counters? Those are usually a small section used to hide the lower normal height counter and tuck bar stools under.

The islands they had on display at Best buy were 42". The counter would not be used for prep but maybe a place to put a pot temporarily with shelves behind it. It would only be a 30 inch section for the oven. We are planning to get a 36 inch Wolf induction cooktop and like having pots underneath. Also Wolf ranges seem especially low.

Best Buy has kitchen islands? Not sure I would copy ideas from a commercial/retail display!

My house was built by very tall people and they had 36" high kitchen counters. I am short but like that height. My Wolf range frame is adjusted to just over 36" high. The grates/griddle are taller than the frame.

We have 38" tall counter tops (which are 30" deep) and a 38" tall island. The extra 2" are really nice, if you're a little taller (e.g. about 6'). But I wouldn't suggest going much higher. Every extra inch will be noticeable.

I'd suggest building a mock-up from card board and trying it out. Even minor adjustments can make a big difference.

Where s the kitchen plan with DIMENSIIONS, Where is the cabinet plan? That is ugly, unnecessary perhaps as well. A Wolf oven and a Best Buy island. I'd say no,

Post the entire kitchen plan. With every dimension, opening, adjacent rooms, windows, etc

This is sounding like a gut with NO plan, and that is never a great idea.

I agree with Jan sounds bad and unessessary if you need an oven get a range why all this fiddling around with weird counters at the wrong height for a single oven.

I don't understand the need for this complicated and likely bad plan. Just get a range.

I dread to ask where your microwave is planned.........?I can see no reason for cabinetry ABOVE the wall oven to be at a lesser depth than the 24 inch depth of the oven below. There is no reason or purpose to the shallow set down space or dust collecting spot. There is no reason the oven can not be placed at a height that is comfortable for you. Post the entire plan.

What you are describing sounds alot like my original kitchen layout. I could not wait for a remodel and had to move the oven. I put mine in the pantry space.

But really, are you remodeling without a plan? Please post a layout of your proposed kitchen so we can help! :)

Raising an oven is no different than raising a DW which I have frequently seen for those that can't bend to access the lower rack.

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Here are the plans. We did not like what we had before, a double oven sticking out but when we looked at how low an under counter oven was, we had doubts. Even a range oven is pretty low. We are near retirement. We want to change the oven to 30 inch. We were looking at a 36" wolf induction cooktop but do not want a Wolf range. We are not having the glass face top cabinets. We don't use the oven every day. We could potentially move the oven next to the refrigerator. The counter on the other side of the cabinets right of the refrigerator has a bar opening to the family room.

Wilson853 your photos show what we are trying to accomplish, except that our kitchen is much smaller. They help us visualize it better. M we did some cardboard mockups. We were considering shelves and cabinets above the oven to the ceiling and it really closed in the space. This is a forced remodel due to flooding. We are trying to make the best of it.

You problems with this layout too with a cooktop right beside a walkway and you need a counter depth fridge for sure. Get an actual KD not a cabinet salesperson for sure.

You are trying to put fifty pounds of poop in a ten pound bag.

No to the 36 inch cook top USE 30"

NO to the full depth fridge, get a counter depth, please

Oven and microwave next to fridge. Use 30 inch oven. Microwave gets a trim kit. Maybe the opening to the family room should NOT be enlarged if storage is more critical.

Or put microwave /built in, where OLD oven location was. In either location for either, there is no reason for the boxy and kludge arrangement you had in mind.

Drawers under the cook top......and there is no reason for doors on lower cabinets, beyond a sink base. Drawers are easier, better storage by far.

The utility and powder room needs work too. A pocket door to the bath, is better in this scenario than an outward swing. Not seeing the entire utility, but perhaps a bit of room for a better look and more convenience......who knows?

Either way, trade your cabinet seller for a real KD

I would move the DW to the other side of the sink so someone can load/unload the DW and not interfere with the person at the cooktop. Since you feel that your mockup closed in the space, then consider not turning the corner with the oven and just run the sink wall straight into the corner. That would be a good spot for your oven. If you put it right above counter height, you can have baking pan and tray storage above and storage below and it is not intruding into your space.

LucyR,

IMHO, your kitchen is just too small for a separate cooktop and wall oven. Have you considered switching to a range? I quickly worked this up. It's almost the same as Jan's sketch above. But I've eliminated the pantry closet. Maybe it won't work for you, but this configuration allows you to maximize the opening to the family room. I second everything Jan said about your proposed cabinetry. It's unfortunate you're going through a forced renovation due to a flood, but this is your opportunity to improve, so really improve it! :)

I like your top 2 photos with the split pantry and the wall ovens.