Thanks for the reply, Doug! I gave it a bit more time hoping for others to weigh in. While I have you - thank you for a great web site, great videos and educational articles. I've read EVERYTHING you've written there (yeah, I have that king of time), and it's very helpful, especially to a fellow North-Eastern US grower like me. Gives me a lot of hope for my plants to be as great-looking as yours. The first thing I do with any pot with an attached saucer is rip it off So then I guess you have pots in a place where effluent can flow down and not make a mess, right? I do not have that luxury. My plants are mostly on a plant stand and on window sills. I either have to take them to the sink/shower to water freely or have saucers under and watch for water levels in them. A couple of my ceramic pots had saucers glued to them, and they came apart accidentally - that was a good accident to happen because now I have the option of a well-matching saucer - or not. This pot has the saucer baked into it though. On another pot that is exactly the same but different color, I easily expanded the hole by a larger drill, but I do not want to unpot this hoya to do the same because it's growing so well (finally!) I'll have to do that though when draining becomes unbearably-slow. I grow all of my trellised plants on humidity grids so the water runs right through them. There is no need to have to dump saucers. And then what happens to that water? Evaporation? Or do you have to drain the big trays? In other news, that peduncle on brevialata is definitely growing buds! Yay.

Wow! What a great assortment! The seeds came today & I'm so thriled at the variety. Thanks to you for a lot of hard work & everyone who traded such interesting stuff. Now to inventory & reserch my new friends! Thanks to all & happy gardening!

Wow! I got my seeds! It took a little detective work to figure out what swap this package belonged to, but once the fear of having lost my mind were over and i started pulling out my seed packets and recording them, the pleasure stretched out to 181 packets of a great variety of seeds, thanks to all of you, my new GGF(great and generous friends). you guys are de bom! The assortment is awsome considering that there was no want list matchups at all. Cathy, awsome job sorting our packages, I only got 2 of my own seeds, and the rest was just pure pleasure to receive and record! Thank you. Chris

OK I'm back with more questions. I've been reading a lot today. One website says grey spite are botrytis blight. I hope I spelled that correctly. Lol.is that what this is? This is the same plant in the other photos when i ask if it was a disease.can it be saved?.i have lots of house plant but never heard of this diease.