Four year old Weil-McLain Aqua Plus is leaking!
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Comments (11)Do you know which models of oil boilers they are proposing? There is quite an efficiency/performance difference between the lowest model Burnham and their highest model. What you want to get is a 3-pass boiler with low water content - Burnham MPO, Buderus G115, PurePro Trio. It should be sized to the actual heat loss of the house - not the amount of baseboard you have or off of square footage. It could end up being that the two are equal, but most likely there is more baseboard than is needed (which is actually a good thing - it will allow lower water temperatures which increase efficiency. For instance, my house has about twice as much baseboard than is "needed" due to insulation/weather sealing upgrades over the years. Now I can run between 110 and 140 degree water - with proper boiler protection from cold return water.). While oversized baseboard is a good thing, a boiler that is oversized really kills the efficiency. When comparing the Burnham MPO, Buderus G115, and PurePro Trio - they are all basically the same thing. They are all cast iron, 3-pass boilers with equivalant efficiency ratings. They all use the same burners - either Riello or Beckett. Again the key to achieving the highest efficiency is proper sizing and installation. Don't shop on price alone. Alot of times, the lowest bid will get you the lowest quality install. The PurePro Trio, as well as the Burnham and Buderus, will each be a good boiler if the installation is done properly. Is your chimney on the exterior of your house, or interior? If it is exterior, you WILL NEED a chimney liner put in. If it is internal, you really should have a chimney liner, but might be able to get away without one. However, I still would recommend always putting one in with high efficiency equipment. For oil equipment, the liner should be made out of AL29-4C stainless steel. This grade of stainless steel will withstand the corrosive nature of oil exhaust. Michael...See MoreTime to replace gas boiler?
Comments (5)Did you make provisions for fresh air intake to the room? I don't recall the sizing recommendations on our brand new 70k BTU boiler, but it was stated that if the boiler is in a small room, intake air must be allowed to come in through large vents at the top and bottom of the room. Even our own municipal code requires a six-inch air intake on our garage because that's where our boiler and water heater are. 47 years is a great life span for a boiler. I just replaced a 140k BTU boiler with a 70k BTU unit. The new boiler is the Weil-McLain GV3. Our heat loss calculation showed that our home should lose about 55 BTU / hour at -10°F. But since we haven't been in the house through a winter, we were being cautious. If you choose to replace it, you'll need a heat loss calculation to size the new one correctly. No doubt that you can find a unit that will be much more economical. I found myself unwilling to go for a new 'modulating' boiler due to my concerns of its reliability, so I went with a unit that's a 15 year old Condensing design. When researching, look into Outdoor Temperature Reset units, which adjust the temperature of the boiler supply water to be in line with the heat loss of the house in warmer weather. (For example, my boiler has been running at around 120°F while the temperature outside is hovering around freezing. As it gets to 10°F outside, the boiler is gradually ramped up to 180°F. This saves a bundle on fuel usage.)...See Moreswitch from oil boiler to electric?
Comments (33)"At these prices, the heating oil companies are going to switch everyone away from their product eventually." Or their customers will insulate, weatherize, replace old windows and replace their old inefficient, oversized, poorly designed heating systems. That's what some of our heating oil and propane customers are doing. Cost per gallon and BTUs per gallon can't be changed (with the price exception of pre-buy and price-cap programs), but they can change how many gallons they burn. With all the old leaky homes, old inefficient heating systems and driveways full of 4WD trucks and SUVs we see on a daily basis, you wouldn't think people are concerned about fuel prices....See MoreIndirect hot water leaking
Comments (3)9 years is fairly soon for the indirect water heater to go bad. Those type units are usually some of the longest lived options for water heaters. Weil-McLain estimates they should have about a 30-year life span. Before you spend a lot of money to replace the current system you may want to have our water tested to determine if minerals or acidity may be corroding your plumbing, which would lead to premature failure of anything you install. You can see a life-cycle cost comparison of different water heating choices at the link provided. The indirect water heater with a high efficiency boiler can be one of the most cost effective solutions you can get. Why don't you want to stay with that and repair or replace the leaky unit? Since you have a gas boiler then the next best option with regards to life-cycle cost is a high efficiency on-demand pilotless gas unit. Gas prices are going up so it might be more cost effective to install an electric on-demand unit, but you would probably have to run a higher current circuit for it. The standard gas and electric tank water heaters that made by galvanized sheets are relatively inexpensive to install, but they are very inefficient and would be more costly over time. Here is a link that might be useful: galvanized sheets...See Morejillfaherty31
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