Vacuflo Central Vac & Hide a Hose
cmara
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FYI - Central vacs and Hide-A-Hose
Comments (2)A follow up to get this off the top of the threads!...See MoreHide-A-Hose central vac
Comments (8)I knew I wanted a central vac in our new house as this was the only way I could control all the dog hair. I knew that if I went with a traditional hose system, I would never ever put it up neatly. I would end up with a wadded mess in the bottom of a coat closet somewhere. Space wasn't an issue because I have numerous closets, but I simply didn't want the messy wadded hose. I have to force myself to put away the water hose (which is used much less frequently than the vacuum) and I knew I would be setting myself up for trouble if I didn't go with the HAH! Cost-wise, I think it added about $300 per outlet (I have 2) plus the extra cost of buying the larger unit needed to pull the hose into the pipe system. We had to be very careful with our budget and spend wisely, so this was my splurge and I couldn't be happier. Moving parts breaking in the port, huh? Yes, I had a teeny little incident after we first moved in. I sucked up a big metal tool that was sitting on the counter leftover from the plumber while trying to vacuum up some fire ant poison spilled by the exterminator. After hearing a couple of crash-bangs, I lost suction completely. I called the installer immediately who walked me through locating the final destination of the tool. Upon the walk-through over the phone, I took apart the pipe connected to the unit in the garage and found the tool lodged in the side of the unit. As it traveled through the tubing, the only real damage that occurred happened at the sharp angles in the pipe. One hole in the pipe at the 90 degree angle coming from the attic to the garage and one hole in the 90 degree angle connecting the vertical run coming from the attic to the horizontal run connecting the unit. Since these holes were accessible, I was able to patch them with rubberized pipe repair tape and could use the system while I waited on the installer to do a proper repair. We determined that because of all the gradual sweeps used in the HAH system, the metal tool didn't damage the rest of the tubing and was able to pass with ease. The trouble occurred at the 90 degree junctions. Since the hose is smaller than the tubing, something that fits through the 50' hose will fit through the pipe tubing, so it is unlikely for something to get stuck in the wall pipes. I love having my central vac vented to the outside. Despite three furry dogs and all hard floors, the dust stays to a minimum. My cheap 30 day air filters in the air handler just now started looking slightly dirty at 90 days and I know this has everything to do with my central vac venting outside. I'm so glad I didn't splurge for the expensive media filter! The only thing I've found untrue with the HAH is the sock doesn't get clean when it sucks up into the tubing like the website claims. This is impossible with the way the sock is connected to the hose. If it was able to keep itself clean, the sock would get sucked off the hose. Not a big deal because I can vacuum the hose when it needs it as I retract it into the wall. I think the dirty sock issue would be the same with a non HAH central vac as well. I love my HAH and will never be without one again!...See MoreHide a Hose Central Vac
Comments (5)I have never had Hide A Hose but your installer does make a few valid points. It will only work with air driven power heads, like the Turbo Cat. I had a system installed in my former home and they sales person this would perform as well as an electric power head. I used it a week and purchased and electric set for each floor. I had 35 foot hoses in this house and they were heavy. I had 25 foot hoses in my 2 previous homes and they were much easier to handle. I 1/4 ID does restrict the air flow and the air driven Turbo Cat slows to a crawl. My system came with a 1 3/8 hose and it spun like crazy. It just didn't pick up anything. I had new plush carpet and after 20 passes the carpet fuzz was spit out, onto the carpet. The Turbo Cat has a very small air opening and the suction is reduced as the turbine takes up most of it. With the reduced airflow at the brush roll it isn't doing much. I had to keep taking it apart and dig the fuzz out of the opening and that is the reason I purchased the electric power heads a week later. It would work fine on Berber or any low pile carpet. I would look into the future as when you change the carpet it would be a shame to limit your use of CV as the air driven would not work on your new carpet. Also pay attention to the placement of the inlets and your furniture placement. If you are not going to get direct connect valves to run an electirc head you will need an electrical outlet near by to plug the pigtale into. Be certain that it is not behind a heavy piece of furniture and are unable to access it. I had new outlets placed right next to the inlet. I had 3 Vroom in my former home and the were great in the baths and kitchen. Hose Magic is still in business and is now called Hose Genie. You are able to use and electric power head with this system, the hose ID is 1 4/4 so the air flow is not reduced, it uses a electric motor to retract the hose instead of suction, and the hoses are 45 feet long. I think that would be heavy as I didn't like my 35' hoses. I found this on www.thinkvacuums.com They have an istallation video and a lot of information and the pros and cons of Hide A Hose and this system. They are still in business. Hoover can't save itself since it closed their factory in N Canton OH. They have made junk for years. They should just go out of business. This Co was bought out by Cana-Vac if I remember right. Can-Vac has been in business for years. Good luck. Let us know what you decide....See MoreDoes rough-in for hide-a-hose cost more than regular central vac?
Comments (2)Rough in is the harder part so equal number of outlets costs a lot more but you usually can have far fewer outlets. But either way, HAH will still cost more. How much more I don't know. I installed 2 HAH outlets with about $150 in pipe and 8 hours of my amateur time so it shouldn't be thousands... The other high cost is the final and I think the parts run about $350 per 50 ft hose and outlet. Installs in minutes....See Morecmara
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