Thanks windberry, the flowers look similar but I'm not sure about the leaves, they look different. Maybe it's just a matter of culture/conditions?

The leaves on your plant look kind of yellowish what I attribute to the not the best plant condition. From what I can see though, the leaf shape and size look very much like on mine Hoya carnosa. I think it is H. carnosa, but I can be wrong of course, there are hundreds of species of Hoya, hopefully other people will chime in.

Looks like my H carnosa too. The leaves can get like that if undernourished.

I thought that was you posting on FB, Carlos.

I'd guess carnosa too.

To be fair, it could be something else entirely. There are other species and especially cultivars that have he same basic leaf and flower shape. It's just that carnosa is the most likely due to popularity. Nutrient issues like those present in these leaves happen with the cultivars quite a bit it seems.

Thanks everybody for the ID suggestions!

Hey Shawn! It's been a while! Are you busy reading the lengthy ESSC newsletter that I just sent out? How many Hoyas do you have outside? Do any of them ever get any seed pods on them? Since you live so close to me you should come over and get one of the seedlings. Assuming of course that you want one. But I think it will be a pretty cool project for ESSC members to compare their seedlings over time.

Weren't you having some Aloe issue? Did you ever get it taken care of? My Aloe bakeri has volunteered some hybrids that I'm really liking... I have a few available if you're interested.

Even though I've shared the Sarcostemma viminale with a ton of people, you're still the only person who has bloomed it. Did I ever give you the vining variety? Needless to say I haven't seen the flowers yet...

Where on FB did you see me posting? I don't think I've seen you posting anywhere... have I?

It was ESSC on FB. I don't post there but I follow it.

Oh man my S. viminale blooms like mad and is going crazy right now. That is one tough plant. I think it is the vining variety. It's hanging down about 5 feet.

No, I still have aloe mites. Grr.

I don't ever get seedpods on my Hoya. I was going to ask if that was from an accidental pollination or hand pollinated. I'd be interested in learning about that. As far as numbers, I would have to go count. I think I have at least 10 different species/cvs. Oddly I don't have a straight carnosa, lol. So I might have to swing by.

The S. viminale is about to pop.

Your S. viminale is looking great. That's a lot of buds! Your plant is the hanging variety... the vining variety would climb up the chain link fence.

That's too bad about the Aloe mites! I wonder if some Aloes are less susceptible than others. Some of my Aloes have been hit by the Aloe aphid, but I noticed it's really just the Aloes that are getting too much shade.

The friend who shared the Hoya seeds usually gets quite a few pods on his Hoyas. He doesn't pollinate the flowers... they are naturally pollinated. Most of the pods are on his Hoya australis which regularly volunteers in his garden. I think part of the reason that he ends up with so many pods is because he has the largest outdoor collection of Hoyas that I've personally seen. Since there are so many Hoyas blooming at the same time I wonder how likely it is that the Hoya seedlings are hybrids.

Have you ever tried hand-pollinating a Hoya? A while back I figured out how to remove the pollen packets, but I didn't know where to put them. On [this page[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/can-i-hand-pollinate-hoyas-dsvw-vd~1976896) there's a photo which shows where the pollen is supposed to go. If you have any Hoyas in bloom you could bring a couple flowers over and we can practice on them.

Oops. I did it again. I went to the AOS Show and Sale fully prepared to resist buying orchids and went home with 9 Hoya.

I do have a Hoya in bloom. Those flowers are daunting. Do you have a dissecting microscope?

9 Hoyas!? Which ones did you get? Yesterday, when I went to the show, I took a look at the available Hoyas and there were a couple that I was interested in, but they were a bit small for the price. I ended up getting Epidendrum bracteolatum for $20 and split a Bulbophyllum (sandersonii?) with my friend. I'm hoping that the Epi will be able to pollinate my reed-stems... and then I'd be able to easily germinate the seeds. My friend got an Epidendrum calanthum with three spikes. The plan is also to try and use it for pollination and seed-sowing experimentation.

I know what you mean about the Hoya flowers being daunting! Each of the 5 black dots on the flower indicates where a pollen packet is located. Extracting them is a little tricky. It seems like the packet is supposed to be placed right below where it is extracted from. A dissecting microscope would definitely be useful, unfortunately I don't have one. :(

Epidendrums sounds like either Cal-Orchid or Andy's. Odd Epidendrums suggests Andy's.

Most of the Hoya came from Flori-Culture which is the rebranded Cal West Tropical. I thought I had gotten out of there reasonably safe and I went to look at their media and container offerings and they had a whole bunch of species Hoya hat I had not seen.

Here's the list.

Hoya pusilla
Hoya dasyantha
Hoya moteskei
Hoya acuta
Hoya verticillata
Hoya pubicalyx "Red Buttons"
Hoya pauciflora
Hoya kanyakumariana
Hoya polyneura