What's the absolute best host for Giant Swallowtails?
Rhonda
5 years ago
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Comments (23)Rue thrives best on benign neglect. I rarely water it and never fertilize mine either. Treat it as a typical Mediterranean herb. except that in my zone, it prefers some shade. It should grow just fine in Florida. Maybe it needs more of a shady location, with excellent drainage, as most herbs require. Rue does need to be watered until it is established, and then very little once it is. I consider it a short-lived perennial. After 4 or 5 years, it will probably need to be replaced. Some say it self-sows for them, but for me, it never has. It does, however, root readily in water. I have cut stems to put in my caterpillar containers, and it has rooted, despite the foliage being eaten to the bones. Some people also have problems with contact dermatitis from handling the foliage and exposure to sunlight which then triggers the dermatitis. I am not allergic to it, but use caution just in case you are. I find Rue in the local nurseries that have a large Herb section, for a couple bucks a plant, so it's not expensive. That means it's easy to propagate and grows quickly, contrary to herbs like Bay Laurel that grow so slowly and can be difficult to propagate, hence they are much more expensive plants. Susan...See MoreA Giant Swallowtail Already!
Comments (27)Susan, I bet Ill have Painted Ladies and Checkered Skippers here fighting over the hollyhocks! Lol I was surprised that they got so tall and flower last year already and I have just planting them in the spring. They werent supposed to bloom until the year, according to the packet they came in. Ill also have Malva sylvestris growing here as soon as I get the seeds and get them started, so if Checkered Skippers eat that, then I guess theyll also be fighting with them over those. Maybe they can reach some agreement the one will eat the Hollyhocks and the other will eat the Mallow. Ha. I also have in my notes that Painted Ladies also like Cosmos, but I dont have information saying that the Checkered Skippers eat those, so Im not sure if they do or not. Thank you very much for listing all those plants that the Checkered Skipper eats; I hardly had any of them listed in my file. What what what??? I get Long-tailed Skippers up here??!! Youve gotta be kidding! I have to go look in the butterfliesandmoths website. Hold on. Hey, youre right! I just looked and the website indicates that there are areas in PA that get that one, and guess who lives in one of those areas! Oh my, and I even said to a friend of mine who lives in Florida that I was so envious that LTS are in Florida and they could very well show up in her garden, and I said that my butterfly book doesnt show them being in our state. Once again, theres a discrepancy between the Butterflies through Binoculars book and the butterfliesandmoths website. Well now, it looks like I just might have hit the jackpot here when I bought these magic beans. I really am wondering now if 8 seeds is enough! Im not even sure yet where Im going to put them. The fact is, I dont know right now where Im going to plant most of the plants that Ill have coming up within the next month or two. Ill figure it out somehow. I had 3 different kinds of skippers here last year, but I didnt have those two that were talking about. Wouldnt that be something if Id get five different kinds of skippers on the bean plants! Im adding all of those plants that you mentioned to my file on here so I wont have to keep going here and there to look things up. I appreciate your telling me about the habits of the Long-tailed Skippers too; I didnt really know anything about them other than when I saw their picture in my book, I thought that they were very beautiful. My good camera needs fixed and hard telling if/when thats going to happen, but if I do get Long-tailed Skippers here, Ill take a picture with our webcam; it just wont be nearly as good. I dont know how I managed to miss the Silvery Checkerspot when I was making up my list of PA butterflies. The book also says that we get those, and it looks like they arent scarce, so Id think that I have a pretty good chance of getting those here. Do you think it matters what type of Rudbeckia? Im not familiar with every type thats out there, but I do know R. hirta and R. fulgida. I had the hirta in my garden last year but it fell all over the place, which I didnt like, and I also didnt think the flower was nearly as pretty as the other kind. I emailed a gal who has a butterfly farm in PA (nowhere near here though) and she said that when she had Milberts Tortoiseshells, they would only eat the Stinging Nettle. I would be much more willing to buy false nettle than the stinging kind. I also think that Milberts Tortoiseshell is gorgeous. If I would ever get that plant, it would be something that I would put across the road in our weed patch. I just have to figure out a way to get rid of the weeds that are already over there. One thing though, Im not sure if the weeds Id be getting rid of would be good ones or bad ones. I suppose there are actually some weeds that butterflies dont eat. With my luck I probably have all of those and none of the others. Ha. On the other hand, maybe thats good if I decide to wipe out the whole weed patch and start from scratch. I know Questions Marks and Eastern Commas should be pretty common here, but I didnt see any last year. I know that they dont nectar on flowers. I had a dish of "slop" out for the non-nectaring butterflies but I dont think anyone even ate itif they did, they did it on the sly. I said that I had heard of serviceberry and hawthorn, but no, I dont have any. Are you saying that they are host plants of the Red Spotted Purples? Actually, arent those also bushes that get berries on that birds like? Oh, thanks for that link too! I didnt get a chance to look at it yet but will check it out. Cathy...See MoreWhat host plants have you seen: Spicebush Swallowtails use?
Comments (8)Jeff, thanks for catching my over-sight. Actually, Giant Swallowtails do come through my area, as according to a very reputable web-source. I suppose the only host that they can use here is Northern Pricklyash or the non-native introduction of Rue, which I won't grow because of its ill-health effects. I have a couple large Linder benzoin shrubs - never have I found a single cat on them; I occasionally see the Spicebush Butterfly around, however....See MoreEastern Tiger Swallowtail host plants
Comments (9)I've never tried keeping tulip poplars or black cherries in pots indefinitely, so I don't know the answer, Kathy. I wouldn't think it'd take long for them to get pot bound, so you'd need to keep potting them up to bigger containers - you couldn't keep this up forever, so eventually the trees would probably die. I doubt that pruning the tops will keep the roots from growing normally. Maybe you could learn root pruning and/or bonsai? I find most of my tigers on wild black cherry/prunus serotina and tulip poplar/liriodendron tulipifera, but I find quite a few on hop tree/ptelea trifoliata, which is the favorite host plant for giant swallowtails. My pteleas don't get very big, just to small tree or bush size. Sherry...See MoreRhonda
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