Will a high enough raised bed prevent wineberry from spreading?
Heruga (7a Northern NJ)
5 years ago
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Comments (2)thank you! I will check out the other forums you mentioned. I did get some great advice on plant choices from someone in the midwest regional forum. I don't know how to insert a picture directly into this post, but I'll try the URL link below. Maybe that will help with any suggestions on where the raised bed should begin and end, since right now it abuts the sidewalk. I'm stumped about what to do on either side of the front porch step, since at some point we'll be adding a railing and replacing the concrete. The bed is against the house, runs the whole length of the house and to the porch, with the sidewalk breaking it. I'm actually not sure how to handle the part where it meets the sidewalk, I guess I will have to push it back, since I'm not sure I'd want the bricks right up to the walk. I have to say I did search a lot last year for info on this type of raised bed with the drainage issue in mind - my paranoia about directing water down around the foundation and having mold problems - we already get a musty smell in the basement in warmer weather, despite the dehumidifier I run 24/7. I was not able to find anything addressing that issue - we have a brick house with a flagstone facade on the front all the way to the ground, and I was unsure about banking dirt up higher against the house just because of the moisture/drainage concern. Possibly my concerns are unfounded. My other lingering question is - aside from the maple, which will probably get moved (cute, but way too small it's to the right of the porch), what about the other plants, like the grasses and perennials, in terms of whether they have to be removed for this project, or can I just add more soil around them, considering there has been some erosion and heaving, anyway? Here is a link that might be useful:...See MoreWineberries
Comments (3)I have a small patch of them. I wish they did better in my climate, but many winters, the tops die back, and I get no fruit at all. The flavor is truly extraordinary, and it makes a jam or jelly that is hard to describe - compared to regular red raspberry, it's like the difference between grocery store chuck steak and hand-raised Kobe beef filet. They do fine here in fairly deep shade to semi-shade; I haven't tried them in full sun. I don't find them all that invasive, not as much so as regular black raspberries. Even in the best years, the yield is quite low, because the berries themselves are about half the size of a typical raspberry. They make up for it in flavor. Oh, yeah, a lot of them don't make it into the basket, either, they're too delicious. Mine seem to be more upright and self-supporting than either my blackberries or black raspberries, more like the red or gold raspberries. I think trellising would be optional -- makes for a neater patch, but probably not really necessary. I think they would probably not be as prone to winterkill in Rhode Island, since your climate is moderated by proximity to the Atlantic/Long Island Sound....See MoreWhat is your 'ideal' raised bed for gardening?
Comments (21)The Samuel Roberts Nobel Foundation in Ardmore has conducted all kinds of research on raised beds the last 10 or 12 years or more. Their research is generally aimed at serious home gardeners or market growers. I've linked their "Permanent Raised Bed" handbook below. It is worth viewing just for the photos alone. They show several of the newer ways they have built and tested raised beds in recent years, using some materials you may never have considered before. Based on the material used in one of those types of beds (rubber tire "lumber"), I don't think they're especially focused on organic gardening, but I concede that not everyone is focused on using organic techniques. This is a long "article" and you can arrow through using the arrows at the left and right of each page. The Noble Foundation is a leader worldwide in all kinds of agricultural research, but using their website can require a lot of patience because it is not necessarily easy to find what you're searching for there, even when you know it is there. I've watched their research on the galvanized metal beds for years, but the other two are more recent research projects and I haven't read about them before. Dawn Here is a link that might be useful: Raised Bed Gardening Guide from The Noble Foundation...See MoreGrass Around Raised Beds, How high....
Comments (7)Roundup only damages things that it gets on the foliage of, Bob, so, as David said, as long as you do it on a day when there's no wind you can use it right up against other things without hurting them. Roundup in the soil doesn't hurt plants--at least not the normal amount you'd use when spraying. And if you've used RU in an area you can pretty much plant new things as soon as it's dried on whatever you sprayed--tho I'm inclined to wait a day or two just to "be sure." I don't think KBG would make it up thru 7" or more of soil, but if you happen to have any bindweed growing in your grass, that will go thru just about anything. If no bindweed or other tap-rooted things, like thistle, it seems to me you should be fine. A couple inch "buffer" like David uses seems to me it would make the lawn "upkeep" over summer a lot easier. Skybird...See MoreKevin Reilly
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