Number one rose in my large rose garden is....Out of Rosenheim. Rouge Royale does well with no problems and also Liebeszauber. Double Delight has to be grown under the patio to keep it free from BS but otherwise a strong grower.

Thank you, oldrosarian. I appreciate your input. Good to know both Out of Rosenheim and Rouge Royale are good roses for you. I’ve been growing Liebeszauber since 2013, so far it’s been my best red.

Sara-Ann,

Just beautiful! Rouge Royale is on my short list, especially for a heat resistant red bloom. Does Rouge Royale bloom a lot? disease issues?

Moses

Rouge Royal grows upright and does get some BS in the fall but stays clean throughout the summer. It is one of those reds that gets bypassed by rose lovers. I think it was because at the time it was entered, there were many other Romanticas that had more appeal. I passed it up myself and only got it from Hortico because I wanted another red in the garden. I like most of Jacques Mouchotte sp? roses. His Romantics series was a big hit but some did get BS in my garden.

Oldrosarian,

Thanks for the extra info on Rouge Royale. I like the heavy, saturated red a lot! From the photos I have seen, it seems to throw mostly one per stem blooms in true hybrid tea fashion.

How would you expect it to survive a zone 5/6, continual freeze-thaw winter, with no permanent snow cover?

Also, which would you advise for my conditions, own root of grafted?

Moses

Lovely pictures of your roses, Sara-Ann! I have tried to grow Double Delight 5 times now in my zone 5 yard, including in the fussy-pants tea protected section, and it never survives for me. Zone 6 must be its limit.

Moses, FWIW I haven't tried Rouge Royal as many times but in 2 or 3 tries it hasn't survived. I put in in the supposed zone 6 part of my yard but I think it was toward the cold side of that bed so I'll give it one more try. Still, I think zone 6 protected at the outside would be its limits. Most of the other Romanticas are borderline at best in zone 5, the exception being Leonardo da Vinci who blooms like a champ and overwinters with some or all of his cane. Traviata is a much more reliably hardy Romantica red in my yard. It puts out a couple of blooms at a time, but you're right that it's a typical HT bloom pattern.

Cynthia

Love that picture: Kristine!

I am going to start over with only Fiji quietness and OOR

Lol. My perfect problem free Rose's. The rest of you better watch your step

Sara Ann, you said that your Out Of Rosenheim has red/orange. Mine is a blue/red. Interesting how different our roses can be in different conditions.