What do you all think of children being on their own at 10 & 11?
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Builders, pricing, contracts - what do you all think?
Comments (28)Mightyanvil, Thank you for the contract breakdowns, I really appreciate that. That is definately part of what I was looking for, ways to create a win/win for us and our eventual builder. We have someone we are interested in using but have not talked specific contracts yet. There seems to be some perception that 1. I am not interested in quality and 2. that I don't realize the potential costs of quality and the unforseen. I appreciate that you are trying to warn me -thanks. I do understand these things and am trying to be prepared for them. What I was trying to get at is that somewhere out there there is a good contractor who will look at a project and take into account our site, our materials choices, our plan, etc. and come up with a bid or projected budget and a price to build our home based on all those things plus whatever he/she needs to make it work, do the job and continue to run a business successfully. Fine with that. There is also someone out there who will do all the same things and will take opportunities to increase the profit he/she takes from the job without offering any additional quality or service to the owners. My whole point is that from my point of view the second scenario is not okay with me and I was wondering what others had done and how they felt about their experiences. I would like to guard against scenario #2 if I possibly can. I know if I choose more expensive materials I will also have to increase the labor portion because it will take more skill from the tradesperson required to do the job. We do want a well built home and know that we will have to make choices and potentially sacrifices to get the things that matter most to us. When I was projecting our budget I took the averages from about 5 different sources of information and then depending on my ability to verify how that would apply to the home we are building I would either use the highest number if I didn't know or the amount that seemed to fit best with our project. There were some items that I was able to verify by actually going out and getting real numbers others by saying 'we are building a home next year it will be (description)if I am looking for 'x' and I budget 'y' is that reasonable? In the 'unknown' areas I spoke to a friend who owns his own concrete flatwork company, he has built several of his own homes. One of his sites was in our neighborhood and similar to ours, so in my basic labor and materials budget I took the amount he paid for excavation and tripled it for safety. I compared that to the prices others have paid in 'hairy situations' and my number was always the highest. We have already dug some on the property as we put in the septic and the excavator at that time did not feel we would have a problem *from what he could see and had experienced on our site* digging the hole for the house. I took the highest foundation cost and added 50%. We have city water, septic is in and we have electrical ready to go. This home will replace a manufactured home so our permits are inexpensive-about 1/3 of what it would be otherwise. When I got my budget together I looked at the overall total and added 10% to the entire thing. I did find that some numbers varied more than others and were harder to pin down. Other times the same number kept popping up so I felt I must be close and the 10% on top of that should cover it. I actually showed this budget and the plan to the builder we are considering and she gave me the feedback that most of my numbers are 'conservative'- in her terms which meant 'high' and we should be fine. Even if our budget goes over another 10% from that we are ok -including the fee amounts she quoted us for her services. At the time the plan we had been considering was built as a spec house nearby and we had gone through it several times. When I contacted the builder I explained that we really liked his house and were considering building that home ourselves. We shared with him information about our property and our time frame and we talked about the finishes in the house and the different things he was including. When he gave me the price for the home as built but on our site it was about 16% higher than our highest number and it did not include everything. Based on comments some have made, maybe it was still a 'fair' number but then again maybe not...in our county you can look up valuations on permits and the price he quoted for house only was $100k over that amount and it was $200k over what he told the county his cost was. In talking with my concrete contractor friend who has built his own homes he told me that builders usually underestimate their expenses for the county but that the county gets very close and they include approximately a 10% 'contractor markup' in their valuation. Enter builder #3, nice guy, only builds turnkey, fixed price. Not sure why he was interested in us as we were very up front that we did not think we would go that way. He was trying to convince us why we should I think. He was very helpful and actually wanted to see our site. He has just finished carving half a hillside out for a huge custom home which we toured so he knows about 'hairy excavation' and he looked at our site and said it was about average for our area and he didn't see a problem. Famous last words I know... anyway he ballparked a price about 10% less than the higher guy and about 9% above our 'cost plus' budget. This makes sense as he does need that 'coverage' in there, but...we had already added that to our numbers so...either we are still way off or...make of it all what you will. The highest number is out of our budget, the middle number is doable and the low number means new furniture, nice landscape etc. Guess which one I am planning on? Guess which one I am HOPING for?! :) So perhaps some will say this all bears no relevance to an actual project and maybe it doesn't. I am not trying to control every aspect, just educate myself and be prepard so that hopefully we make a good choice when we do finally sign that contract. I just wanted to know what everyone else was thinking about builders, pricing and contracts and how to best go about building a home for a 'fair' price. We are committed to building a house, it will be interesting to see what it will actually cost. Thanks all....See MoreI know I know but what do you all think?
Comments (6)Sounds real cute Jen...right now I have 6 snowman and 6 snowfalkes for a quilt all 12.5 blocks..... I really want to make a Robin cute but this pattern had me pulling my hair out it just would not go together right so I am thinking of embroidering robins LOL...easier than appliquue. Red...See MoreI listened to you all and RE DESIGNED. What do u think??
Comments (62)It looks great but I caution you against 6 skinny posts. Porch posts should not be closer together than the height of the posts. 5 posts would only work if you got rid of the useless front door. 4 posts would be good too but I would make them at least 6" square (not round). That even aligns better with the front door than what the designer drew which would be obvious if the designer hadn't moved the door over in the computer model. (I wouldn't be moving useless doors if I had a tight budget.) It also allows wider front steps. Front steps should always be wide and welcoming with room for a plant or two. If the center dormer is made wider perhaps the roof of it could continue down to the main roof forming a gable-front dormer. Not much more expensive (maybe less expensive) but possibly a lot more elegant....See MoreWhat do you all think of this unusual fixture?
Comments (39)springville, that's the person :). She is great to work with. BUT: I thought about it more, and you're not doing anything that will shine light through it, right? A solid bowl? --you could also consider using a high-quality vitreous or other solid tile which isn't transparent. They're much easier to work with because the adhesive can't be seen through the tile. I *wouldn't* use Hakatai (even though I'm using it on something now); instead, maybe consider these good vitreous: http://marylandmosaics.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22_49&osCsid=f364ea8138712ee82889238809a144f7 OR: the Bisazza Opus Romano from Artful Crafter is also really intense and beautiful and doesn't have *any* of the white speckles that vitreous does. They'd still be flat enough on the sides of your bowl that you could use it. There are other more expensive choices, of course :), but I actually wouldn't recommend using the Sicis waterglass after thinking about it more--something non-transparent is much easier and more appropriate, even though your inspiration glass was transparent. And I meant to mention about what the horrible thing was but I somehow repressed it yet again: we've discovered over the weekend that our 10 y.o. daughter's lovely recent habit of not turning on the fan and leaving the door shut for hours after taking a shower has now created a rather serious mold situation in the bathroom and the attic (I noticed it because the paint was puffing up in one area--pulled it back and voila :( :(). I'm rather sick about it--thousands of dollars, hours of energy wasted --UGH-- just because she didn't want to do as we'd asked and had explained would happen. It's the bad mold, too, and in damp circumstances it spreads fast. Evidently there had been previous repair in there before we got the house, and maybe it was just sitting in the repaired area, waiting for enough dampness to hit. It had been fine for almost 5 years we'd lived here, and in the space of a couple months with her new habit, it wreaked that much damage. :( I like talking about mosaics more....See More- 8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
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