Well, it could be. It is young and still in a band pot and I do see the lower limbs drooping. BTW- these are usually cuttings and where they were taken from on the tree may play into it. Where did you get it from?

tj

Forestfarm. I am still not sure what to think about them in the first place. They shipped it last Thursday, so it sat around the whole weekend and finally arrived yesterday. Seems all other places ship Monday or Tuesday to avoid this.

First thing to look for is a graft union. If no graft union, it's a seedling, and that isn't the way that conifer cultivars are sold. This particular cultivar is upright with weeping branches. Young plants with short laterals don't look very weeping.

Weeping forms of Nootka cypress are nearly entirely weeping from the beginning - as with hemlocks and Himalyan cedars even the lead shoot has a nod to it. The plant asked about here is either a different, non-weeping variety of the cypress grafted onto another kind of tree - with foliage from the stock present at the base - or a Nootka cypress seedling, with foliage from when the plant was younger at the base.

https://www.forestfarm.com/chamaecyparis-nootkatensis-green-arrow-chno075

So it is likely not what I ordered even if it is a seedling? I was hoping since it is so small there isn’t just much too weep.

I've gotten several of these young plants from Western Evergreen in the past. They definitely have prominent weeping on the laterals.

I'd bet a few conifers its not Green Arrow. Also that is a big plant for a band pot.

Broken Arrow Nursery, Song Sparrow, Western Evergreen and Dan's Dwarf Conifers have had the most consistently quality (including correct plants) for me. Check them out for the future.

iris .. you are missing the obvious ... its in the words ...

a 'seedling' is grown from seed ... and the genetics mean it can be anything in between the parents ...

named weeping cultivars .. are most likely GRAFTED PLANTS ... a piece cut off a mother tree ... and grafted to new roots ... and you should be able to see the graft ... which is what sara said ...

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=grafting+union+conifers&t=ffcm&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

and being a piece of the momma ... it ends up being an EXACT DUPLICATE of momma ... since its literally a piece of her ... and this is how you end up with an exact green arrow ....

i would talk to them.. and/or return it ... based on such ...

ken

Thank you. I think I get it now. If you breed two Labradors you still get something like a Labrador. If you want to breed something like a Labradoodle you might end up with something like a Labrador or a Poodle. My “Green Arrow” is in the category of the doodles.(the red cedar seedlings popping up in the yard would be Labradors since they all look alike) I didn’t see anything that looks like a graft, but will look again closely.

A more close-up picture would be good to confirm there's not a graft union, but I agree with the panel this is not the right thing.

But, just for clarification, is it known for certain that this cultivar cannot be reproduced by cuttings?

FWIW, I have my own 'Green Arrow that I've always doubted is the real Green Arrow', but I'm keeping it nonetheless. It clearly has a very fastigiate habit.

There's very little likelihood of crossing (hybridization) being involved with what is being talked about here. The discussion has been of whether the specimen received is a pure Nootka cypress raised from seed - or a named selection of that species grafted onto another kind of conifer. And whether or not that selection was the one that was ordered.

A percentage of individuals of some kinds of plants raised from seed gathered from source plants growing in the presence of certain other species may rather often turn out to be of hybrid nature, but that is not the case with Nootka cypress - the now much planted Leyland cypress is based on a very small number of crossings between it and Monterey cypress (in cultivated settings - the two do not grow together in the wild).

I emailed them. Hopefully I will get an answer by Tuesday. The automated response said in 24 hours, but since it’s the weekend it will probably be a bit longer. I will let you know what they say.

I still didn’t get an answer. Logging in to see my “ticket” it says processing, 6 days. I have never ordered from Forestfarm before. Is this their usual customer service? Would it be helpful to call them tomorrow or is it a waste of time? I figured email would be better since I could attach a picture. I realize this is a busy time for nurseries, but this seems a bit extreme time wise.

Iris, why do you have doubts that it's a Green Arrow? I don't see why it wouldn't be a Green Arrow if that's what you ordered. I've ordered from Forestfarm before and my tree was in great health and exactly what it was labeled. Here's a Raywood Weeping Cypress that I bought from Forestfarm 3 years ago. It's the wide Blue conifer in the middle of the patio. It was about 4 ft tall when I planted it and now it's triple the size.

I just thought the little one would look a bit more like a big one. It is as wide on the top as on the bottom. I have never ordered from them before and could not find pictures on the internet to compare it to. That’s why I asked here. It wouldn’t be the first time I got something wrong. Another seller, but I ordered a spicebush and knew this was not what I got. Took me a long time to figure out it was a bladdernut.

Baby tree's like that can be difficult to distinguish. I would give it time for the Green Arrow to mature. Thankfully Alaskan Cedar grow fast so you should know soon. Enjoy your little tree ;)

I've called FF in past when I've had questions or problems (they once shipped me the wrong tree but made good immediately). You might just call them.

why do you have doubts that it's a Green Arrow?

Small 'Green Arrow' currently being offered for sale in my area are almost entirely drooping - the plant asked about does not have the right habit.

I called today. It was nice to get an actual, real live person on the phone right away. It was weird that he asked which tree I have the problem with, the Green Arrow or the Baptisia. Not sure if he looked into the email I sent with the picture attached. He assured me I have the right tree, so I guess I will see how it turns out.

Thanks for the update. Keep us posted.