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Comments (24)Oliver, From your posts, I think you have already made up your mind and the choice is orange. No one knows your needs better than you do. If the 'bota meets those needs, then there is no justification to spend the extra green to obtain the Green. Doing so would mean that you are buying more tractor than you need so why buy a tandem axle dump truck when a single axle dump truck will do the work? I don't own either brand and I respect both brands equally because I have run both. As such, I have no bias here. Even if the 'bota's loader is lighter than the Deere loader, you have to ask yourself as to how much loader work you intend to do and what the loader work will consist of. If all you are doing is transporting loose material, either loader will do that but one will take a few more trips to complete the task. However, if you need the larger lifting power on a regular basis, then the choice is clear. If the large lifting power is needed for a single day each year, then go rent a skid-steer loader for a day at less than $200.00. Put the hours and the wear and tear on someone else's machine and keep the price difference in your bank account. As for the PTO HP issue, there are implements out there that are sized to operate on either tractor. Once again, it comes down to the time factor. If the 'bota will handle a four foot rototiller but the Deere will handle a five foot one, then so what? Both will till your garden but one will do it a tad slower than the other. If that means two more passes with the 'bota and an extra 15 minutes of time, then to me it would be no big deal since I only till my garden a couple of times each year. And depending upon the size of your property, the configuraion of your property and the obstructions on your property; you may find a slightly smaller tractor to have an edge over the slightly larger unit. And no, I haven't checked the specs but wheelbase, overall width and turning radius all come into play as well. So far, I don't see any posts that would justify the extra money but the final decision is one that only you can make based upon what you currently perceive your needs are. I would agree that buying right the first time is the best way to go but both of these tractors have exceptional holding power value-wise. Even if you find that you need something larger a few years from now, you will get excellent service and return on your investment, regardless of the colour you choose today....See MoreWise to go high-end for NYC micro-kitchen?
Comments (26)The comments are very useful (hopefully for others as well. I include a link at the bottom for those who wish to see how I plan to pack all these appliances in such a small space (about 70 Sq. Ft.)and remain true to my word of having at least 96" of useable counter space:) Yes, I do cook, although I kind of gave up a couple years ago because I got sick of the kitchenette being so small (6' 6" includes 20 inch range, apt. fridge and sink with a little counterspace wrapping around a corner. I do a bit of Asian cooking (got to be really careful of grease so I don't do this much), baking, etc. Thinking that a good range is the most versatile option to go with in a limited space. Rococogurl is talking sense here. It may be because she's a designer and looking at the total picture rather than just the appliances, but I do realize there are a lot of guys living around here who just don't cook. I like to cook and figure a little more kitchen (especially the counterspace) will entice me to do more. But what she is saying (I think) is look at the over all scale of your place and don't put some really serious piece of equipment in that's out of whack with the rest of the house. I have a 20 inch apt. range now and IT heats the apt. up a bit in the summer. In the winter it's fine because this old parlour room with it's tall ceilings and leaky insulation runs cold. Anyhow, I don't roast much turkey in August, but the point is well taken. Any of these ranges will heat up the room depending on what one does with it, but yeah, the bluestar or capital, american, viking ranges should all do about the same thing in terms of heat in the kitchen. But the appliance should match the lifestyle is what she's saying, which is a very good point. However, that being said, is a pro style range the best "all purpose" tool for someone who wants to do a variety of different cooking stuff? I mean my neighbor bought Gaggy ovens because she is a baker and she isn't that thrilled with them. I am just looking for a good "down the middle of the highway" choice that I will really enjoy. (Yes, I know the blue star owners are revving their super nova burners cheering, but probably any of these fine ranges will work including a Bertazonni or FP etc.)? The reason I am looking for power in a range is versatility I guess...? Still defending the Northland Company (I don't know why because the battle seems lost with the Liebherrite's out there:) These are extremely well built (I would say much less tinny than the Liebherr). There nothing special other than a very good looking tall thin built in with a stainless door and top mounted compressor. Insides are all metal and they go for about 3800 street price so they aren't cheap by any means--they also hold as much as a much wider fridge which is good for the space starved. The Liebherr's are really nice, but the construction isn't all metal. If I had room for their 30 inch built in I would get it. I am really going for a clean box look rather than anything else, thus the Northland. Who knows I may slash the budget and get a Liebherr before this is over. I don't like the integrated model that much as it doesn't hold that much. Apt. is about 400 Sq. Ft. in an historic district in Brooklyn. No other washer dryer facilities available. I carry the stuff to a service/drycleaner. Please have a look at the picture. Some people may have issues or comments about so much stuff being packed together space-shuttle style with virtually no under counter storeage, but there are no "win-win" scenarios with trying to do all this in such a compact area...I know this is an appliance thread, but readers may want to have a look at the rendering to get a better idea. Thanks Again. DOug http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/09/microkitchen_plan.html?cat=my_favorite_room Here is a link that might be useful: Micro Kitchen Drawing...See Morecalling all fisher & paykel w/d users
Comments (30)Looks pretty good. Weigh it! Subtract a pound for the basket. As I said before Staber takes 18 pounds of varied clothes with one gallon of triangular air space dry, 2 gallons without socks which are puffy so no the clothes are not jammed in. With that much clothes I find I need 4 ounces powder, or 2 liquid stead of one. I wait till the splashing drum is a bit muffled, this indicates suds. Powder must be melted first, at least with my junky detergent. I add it manuelly. Gotta get some Tide Cold, it was thee best in a recent CR shootout. Did some reading about FP this afternoon....."Fisher and Paykel was tops in energy efficiency of all the top loaders," (CR) I'm sure Smart Fill helped with that. Staber does 5 dollars a year gas. Staber also has "Auto Fill Sensing" however, and adds water depending on the size of the load, I see no use for this frivoulous feature however. Uh-oh....here comes Dross again... In case Angela is still wondering....According to CR "Do'nt overstuff the washer.... clothing needs enough room to move so it can be properly cleaned and rinsed, especially in a top loader. You can fill the tub of a front loader, but do'nt jam the clothes in." In addition to the 18 pound capacity, the Staber works really well for puffy items, pillows, comforters, and such. I can wash 3 full size bed pillows and a lite twin size comforter all at the same time. They are rendered clean and odorless, pillows are always puffier afterward. The machine spins out fine in that mode, and does so on MAX spin speed as the machine washes these items without my having to set it on delicate, so the wash is more aggressive also. Really wrings em dry. That's what I mean by EVEREST of gentle. CR 2005 observation "New survey data show that Fisher and Paykel has been among the most repair prone top-loaders" CR observes recently that stainless steel can stand up to higher spin speeds but "has no edge over plastic". Unfortunately, in my reasoning sneeky engineers can breathe on plastic formulas in the lab in such a way as to feed mold if they elect to as can be done with paints (which contain tasty vegetable oil for mold to feed on). Plastic just scares me. It can absorb odors also depending on the plastic. Especially after 5-10 years. Stainless steel is beyond just odor-neutral, it is an air freshener. Not only that, when an inner tub is stainless both sides of it are stainless, thus protected/ deoderized, plastic parts are often hollow and what if both sides are not glossed? Hollow parts increase surface/odor area as there are 2 sides to them. The finished glossy plastic is free of pores and stain resistant and in the same way, porcelain tubs are often finished on only one side. By pores I mean either literal or regarding retention as in odors. All this plastic jiberish is really just my own opinions/theorizing. But we have tupperware that definitly suffers from these problems, and even feel greasy and smells after hot wash or maybe because of it as these tuperwares soften with heat. On the Staber all 4 surfaces front and back of the inner and outer tubs are, well stainless, and have a natural permanent air freshening quality. One things for sure, the Staber always smells crispy fresh. Both tubs are thick as a butter knife, 18 gauge, and the frame base is stainless also on the 2404 model I went with. The outer tub can also be accesed and cleaned by hoemowner. Long story short a friend down the street has a speed queen porcelain top loader and while it does'nt smell horrible it sure does not smell crispy fresh like the S----r does....See MoreBreville ovens -- smart vs compact? Pros/cons?
Comments (42)All the photos and experience you all so generously provided were a huge help to me. Update: I spent my precious points on the compact and it fits perfectly under my plate rack! However, I did get a laugh this morning when I had to read a book to learn how to make toast! Just wanted to thank everyone on this thread for their input & suggestions. So many things these days offer convenience but turn out to be a PITA and end up in the donation box. It was great to know in advance that I wasn't stumbling into that. Do think I really will enjoy the Breville. (Just a P.S. to anyone doing any shopping at Crate & Barrel for the holidays. I didn't know about this at all. I bought ornaments for Xmas gifts at Crate last year. They offered 10% off that purchase if I took out their credit card, so I did. I didn't buy another thing there until September when we needed a new sofa on sale. I used their card. That purchase gave me 1% points valid for several months. I used those points for this purchase, also on the card, online putting in the coupon code. This was a very nice added value to the sofa purchase. )...See MoreRelated Professionals
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