Too funny ks! I remember the doctor bit...and I wondered about the basement because it seemed a bit small otherwise. :) I have a full basement, with about 6' 2" clearance--I'm 6'1, and have to duck a bit to miss furnace pipes. Need new concrete for the floor, but got to save for that. I rented rooms for a while when I first moved in back in '87, always nice people who were co-workers or friends going to OSU...now I only have one 'roomie' since I needed someone to transport me around. The attic was supposed to be my library, but somehow, someone always wanted to live in it! The cats--ah, there's a story! I have maintained two cats--since I was a little kid; when I bought the house, had a black and white I bought six months after the house--within a year, had found a lilac siamese on the street (lost the lilac in '01 at age 21, the black and white in '02 at age 16). The siamese with attitude on the chair came in March 01 as a kitten to replace my lilac...and his sister came two months later when the last kitten got run over at my sister's farm--someone had tossed their mother out there, and she gave birth to three kittens. Fast forward to '05, and the 'attitude' boy got stolen...so I got the girl on the sofa to replace him (also from my sister). So now, I just have the two girls, Bortai and little Chula, ages 10 and 6 respectively. Genghis was the attitude boy, his sister Bortai is the tortie point above, and Chula is the one on the couch in a pic when she was about six months old. Genghis was a traditional seal point (they are larger than modern siamese), Bortai is a traditional tortie-seal, and Chula is a classic seal--they are an inbetween style (not as large as traditional, but not skeletons like today's models--they were around mainly in the 50s-60s and the kind I grew up with.) And now, back to the thread...:) I really need to post house interior pics, showing the woodwork, stairs and lights--btw, my stairs have the original dust things in the corners. :)

Something like this... Move the cleanup sink and DW off the island Move the range toward the refrigerator Add a prep sink to the island Add a trash pullout in the island situated so it's easily accessible from the Prep Zone, Cooking Zone, and Cleanup Zone. Four seats at the island With the addition of a prep sink in the island (24" sink base cabinet), your primary Prep Zone is in the island...you can visit with family & friends while prepping. You also have a secondary Prep Zone b/w the range and cleanup sink. The Prep & Cooking Zones are separated from the Cleanup Zone and no tripping over an open DW door! With the Cleanup Zone (sink + DW) out of the island, the dirty dishes are no longer in the way of prepping and are no longer front & center on the focal point in the kitchen...the island! The sink/range counters are 30" deep. If it's in the budget & available in your cabinet line, I would get deeper base cabinets...28" would be ideal. If deeper base cabinets are not in the budget (or not available), standard depth base cabinets (24") can be pulled out from the wall 4.5" or so. Because the refrigerator doors must extend past the counters to open fully, the small run of counter to the right of the refrigerator is the standard depth of 25.5". The upper cabinets are all 15" deep. Since you have an abundance of counter space, you could even afford to lose some to an appliance garage in the corner. 55" is still a wide aisle, but hopefully with the prep sink in the island as well as the cleanup sink only 4' away from the range, the aisle won't be too bad. On the plus side, you can have someone cleaning up, someone prepping at the island, someone prepping b/w the range and cleanup sink, and someone cooking...all at the same time with no one bumping into any one else. You could even have someone making a snack without getting underfoot. (this assumes the pantry & garage door cannot be moved, keeping the columns, and keeping your basic layout) Be sure, though, that if you go with this deep an island that you can reach across it to clean it. Can you reach at least 33"?

As I have said, several times, likely dozens of times now, I do not have them. I am seriously trying to not be confrontational but how many times do I have to say it? I do not have them yet. I figured the paint sketch would be worthless. That is why I didn't post it. I asked if it would be of any help. I got no response. Then Harry said post the damn plans even if it's drawn on a cocktail napkin so I did. I do understand the point of accurate plans. That is why I hired someone to do them. I do not have them yet. Please read and acknowledge you understand that I do not have them as of this time. As I have said, many, many, many times I do not have them. I asked for basics. If you can't provide basics, fine. It's not difficult. I'll finish by saying, I do not have the plans right now.

Will this space truly function as a bar? If so, would you equip it with a sink, undercounter fridge, wine cooler, ice? The color combinations are good but your selections would really depend on the rest of your decor. One thing I would discourage is storing firewood inside. There are always going to be bugs of some type that come in along with the wood.