Couple of questions: are you planning on using a counter depth refrigerator?

Is the Pantry is a walk in pantry? 4' 2" is way too deep for a pantry if it is not a walk in.

Hi @jamie! Yes, sorry I did not clarify that, it is counter depth. The wall you see on top of the updated color section is exactly 24"long so #1 is very workable (with multi slide door open).

Yes, it is a walk in pantry.

Other than the electrical channel and yellow section marked 2' x 2' (simple open shelving), the pantry then measures 4' deep and 11' long (or 9' if you deduct the 2x2 space).

@lisa -- I wish.... no, it can't. The plan on the 3 story house was to have a dumbwaiter that sits in front of the electrical channel to run the span of the basement to top room.

It was the only place the architect could get it to run the levels and be workable -- below the pantry is an open stair going 3 levels up.

So, I'm stuck with where that electrical channel is, assuming of course after this big project I can actually afford a dumbwaiter. :/

thanks though! my next house will be perfect haha. :)

Do not keep the refrigerator all the way to the corner. Door will not operate correctly at all. Bad design for sure.

@idecor, thanks. The fridge is a right hand swing door and only needs 1/8" beyond a standard cabinet to open the max 115 degree opening at counter depth (24"). With a wall blocking PAST counter depth, it will stop at a 90 degree opening (which I don't want) and to your point, would be a bad design.

But, if the pantry doors are partially open (because it would then swing past that 24" wall to the pantry), you still get the full open swing -- the only question here is whether having one of the pantry multi slide doors open to accomplish that is whether it would be an odd experience for full door opening.

For example if someone entertains all the time and wanted the pantry doors fully closed, that would be an issue if it's unorganized. Opposite to that if you are entertaining and in and out of the pantry cooking, etc. the doors (3 multi slide) would probably be open anyway.

perhaps not the perfect design if the pantry door has to open, but maximizes what I believe more important, is the working counter space to the right of the 48" range (having said that as a right handed person :)

And, this does assume the pantry organization and function is a 'work of art'; which I plan on, as an extension to the kitchen working space.

Did you put a fridge in this situation and regretted it? Thanks so much.

I really wouldn’t think moving the refrigerator closer to the stove is a negative. Anything odd that has to happen on a regular basis to make the refrigerator function properly is bad. I personally don’t have a refrigerator all the way into a corner but I have been a few places where they were, to put it simply, put in a terrible location. If you want symmetry for the stove. Center it after moving the refrigerator down. Stove doesn’t have to be centered on island. I understand what your trying to accomplish but I encourage you to make sure your refrigerator functions with ease. Also, It should be hinged on the right side to me in that particular spot. ( Don’t know if that’s right or left hand swing.) any way you can put it on the pantry wall? good luck hope all goes well.

@ideacor -- understood what you are communicating, thank you. I guess for me -- I spend more time cooking and prepping than getting into the fridge back and forth (e.g. I get all my stuff out first).

My choice here is enough prep area to right of range, or perfect fridge (to your point where it's located) and do appreciate your input (and yes, it is hinged right). Thanks again so much for your input, I really do appreciate it!

If I'm understanding you, you're saying in design one, to fully open the fridge you'd have to also open the pantry?

If that's what you're saying, it's more than poor design. It's just plain bad. In every way shape and form. You shouldn't need to open another door to get into the fridge. The idea of creating a new kitchen design is to make working in it easier, not harder. To make it more intuitive, not less.

If you need more counter space to the right of the cooktop, then move the cooktop to the left more. Problem solved.

Does the area in front of the electrical need to be pantry or could it be part of the actual kitchen?

If it can be counter space, then stop the pantry short of the full space. Make that corner a corner cabinet. Then move the fridge down so it's 12" from the edge which would then give you 36" of workspace to the right of the cooktop.

@cpartist -- I definitely know where you stand on this :). Yes, instead of opening 90 degrees (also a normal fridge function), door panel #3 of #3 on the multi track slide (the one closest to the edge of the counter) would need to slide to the left to reach the full 115 degree opening of the single door. Good idea on the 2x2 space, but unfortunately that's structural. Thanks.