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Comments (10)My "notoriously dangerous" and "recipe for disaster" comments came, in part, from first-hand experience. When I was a young teen-ager we lived in Germany in the top floor apartment of a house that had a staircase with a "sprial-section" near the top. That is, the staircase made a 90 degree turn about 3ft from the top. But, instead of a landing, there was a section of steps (maybe 5 or 6 steps total) that had treads like a spiral staircase. This staircase was indoors and about 36 inches wide and it had a good handrail. But, in the first couple of months that we lived there every single member of my family, from my youngest brother who was then 4 up through my older brother who was 16 and including Mom and Dad who were in their late 30s, took at least one or two spills down that staircase. We learned to hate it with a passion. Even when hanging onto the handrail, it was extremely easy to lose your footing because your left foot had a narrower spot on the tread to land than your right foot. Being careful didn't matter. All it took was one tiny split second of inattention or a tiny damp spot due to a little snow having been left behind by the last person to come up the stairs - and down you would go. Fortunately we were all young and in good physical condition so, for the most part, our injuries were limited to bruised gluteuses and various pulled muscles. And, because the staircase straightened out to a normal straight staircase after the curve, when you fell you tended to come to a rest as soon as the treads went back to normal. I don't think any of us ever fell all the way down the entire length of the staircase. Still, I remember feeling like I had just yanked my arm out of its socket one time when I fell despite the fact that I was holding onto the handrail at the time. Worst however was that right before Chrismas, Mom slipped while carrying laundry downstair and she severely bruised her coccyx. She spent Christmas in the hospital doped to the gills to combat her pain and then most of the next several month in severe pain everytime she stood up. And, Mom continued to have occasional pain in her tailbone for the rest of her life. Right after Mom fell, Dad built a wooden contraption that he firmly affixed to the wall at the top of the steps so that effective blocked off about 1/3 rd of the narrow tread edge of the staircase till you got down past the spiral portion. Dad's contraption looked downright ugly and the landlord was not at all happy with the way it ruined the look of the building OR the fact that Dad had nailed it to the wall! (Landlord lived in the ground floor apartment and I remember his outrage when he came home and saw Dad's contraption.) However Dad convinced him that either that contraption stayed right where it was until our lease was up or Landlord was going to be facing a major lawsuit for Mom's injuries. It stayed and no one else had any major falls. But, as soon as our lease was up, we moved even though the place we moved to was much smaller, and not nearly as nice overall - just to get away from that d---ed staircase. **** I didn't even know such things existed but tho they are certainly not as "pretty" looking as a spiral staircase, I would definitely choose that alternating tread stair that Mighty pointed out over a spiral stair. If your lower deck isn't wide enough for you to use one that goes straight from lower deck to roof deck, maybe you could use two smaller ones instead. Build a landing midway between roof and lower deck. Then set the lower alternating tread stair at right angles to the upper one. With a good railing system around the two open sides of the landing, even IF someone falls while coming down from the roof, they would only fall as far as the landing. But, it kind of looks like even if one loses their footing on these, they would basically fall in a "standing" position which would at least reduce the possibility of a broken or bruised tailbone. Seriously, I do hope you'll think really long and hard about not going with a spiral staircase. But, whatever you choose to do, I wish you all the best. And I do love the idea of the green roof garden. Hope you'll post pictures of that when you get it in....See MoreHelp!! stair risers covered by old linoleum sheet and messay glue
Comments (3)Find someone who will do the complete job for you, including the risers. Unfortunately, removing sheet vinyl from stairs and risers is a labor-intensive operation and you will have to pay the going rate. Be aware that some sheet vinyl has a mineral fiber asbestos felt backing, so you need to avoid dry sanding the stuff. Ideally, if this is an ACM (asbestos containing material) then it needs to be removed while using the accepted methods or you will need to employ an asbestos removal company to do that part of the job. A simple test can determine if this is an ACM. The date when the sheet vinyl was purchased can also help to tell you what kind of backing is on the flooring....See MoreStaircase Remodel
Comments (17)""@Corlett: Do you interject fear and doubt into every situation?" No. I like to get readers to think about subjects they may not have thought of. People see all kinds of crazy stuff in magazines and think they're somehow okay. Sometimes they are, sometimes they're not "Veneer (why?) a code violation. Fatally dangerous." The treads could have a veneer installed over them to cover the baluster holes, but if that veneer created more than a 3/8" deviation in any risers, it would be a code violation because it alters the gait of the person using the stairs. Altering a gait unexpectedly can cause falling which can be fatal. "Wood filler and stain - not a good idea (why?)" There is no wood grain in wood filler. Wood filler is fine for finish nail holes, not for large fills. It would be difficult if not impossible to get a wood filler to accept a stain to match and the dimensional stability of the filler and the tread would be so different as to create cracks eventually. Vith: Thanks for the link....See MoreSources for spiral stair treads?
Comments (19)Yes, if never used spiral stairs before, you have to pay attention. When I was in Amsterdam we had them in the hotel, (it seems there is a lack of fire regulations there as egress goes). and elevator you can barely fit 2 people so I used stairs all the time, they are fun and add nice detail in some circumstances especially when you tight on space, or if there is a loft, to down into the basement as the second stair, etc... but if you have small kids in the house, they can be dangerous if they're not careful....See Moresmit2380
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