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is this crown molding install correct?

6 years ago

Hi everyone,

So I’m Remodling my home and I want to know if this was done correctly, I personally think that the straight crown molding should be flush and even with the cabinets. Am I wrong?

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Kristin Petro Interiors, Inc.

6 years ago

last modified: 6 years ago

Actually, with this type of flat stock molding, I prefer that it bumps out past the doors the same distance as it does on the sides (.75").

You need a finished nailer piece behind the flat stock to push it forward. Not an easy install, but a better look, in my opinion.

Your install is not incorrect. You typically would NOT flush the molding to the face frame. It projects out .75" from the face frame, which is why it is flush with the doors (which are .75" thick).

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Bri Bosh
6 years ago
No, molding should not be flush with the cabs.
zmith
6 years ago
I have seen pictures of more modern kitchens were the flat molding is flush with the cabinets. Did you discuss your expectations with the installer beforehand?
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User
6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago
Molding should be flush with the doors. And you should have ordered the expensive field applied decorative panels if you wanted the reveal even all the way around. You can not have it flush on the front and the sides both without that. It moves the miter point and makes it look goofy.
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Robinwood Kitchens
6 years ago
I agree with Kristin on this one. I think the reveal in the photo above looks best.
just_janni
6 years ago
Agreed - having the forward moulding coming out proud of the cabinet door is best - it also controls dust collecting on the top of the cab door.
chispa
6 years ago
I think this is an area where a customer needs to look at photos and show the contractor or kitchen designer exactly what they want. I visited several kitchen showrooms when shopping for cabinets and was amazed at some of their design choices for their showroom displays. I saw all kinds of weird crown placements.

Don't assume a GC or KD can read your mind and don't assume you will like some of the details they have always done (however weird they might look to the rest of us).

I wrote off one of these showrooms exactly because several of their displays had weird details. The owner was an older guy who did things his way ... no, not in my kitchen!
User
6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago
Having the trim project past the doors also moves the miter point. I don’t care for that. I’d rather have the applied panel ends if you’re going to pay for an upgrade.
Steve Grimes
6 years ago
If you look at kitchen cabinet photos in this site, you'll generally see a) the trim sits slightly above the top of the door leaving a small "reveal". b) both faces of the trim (side and front) project out from the side of the cabinet - are not flush.
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Joseph Corlett, LLC
6 years ago
It looks fine.

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