Advice needed: How to select an architect and builder
Sarah Morris
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Comments (7)I wouldn't confirm that any particular builder has the project until there is a project to have. As is, it sounds like you selected a builder based on a house that now you won't build. Therefore you need to re-plan the house, and [for equity and a clear conscience] get bids on the new plan. However, if the bid is close to what you can accept for the house, then I think it would be fair to tell the builder that you want to use his services but cannot afford to build the house as is. Ask if y'all can work out a fair fee for him to consider what changes are possible which would bring the total cost down (to 10% LESS than you think acceptable), and then IF you like the possible changes, have him formally re-bid. The re-bid doesn't have to be open to all, but should be a confirmation of expectations (some guys can say oh yeah we can use XX flooring and YY shingles, but when the bills come you find that XX and YY only saved 1% instead of 5%). Whatever changes are made, if they are anything other than cosmetic, be sure to have the whole house re-evaluated by a structural engineer before the build begins. And have a very detailed contract. Remember to have on hand an extra 20% over whatever he bids, because no matter how careful the bid, there are inevitably overages. With the rapidly rising cost of fuel, I think we are going to see many subs that will be charging extra just to cover their fuel expenses. The emergency fund rule has always been 15% to cover the unexpected [boulder in the basement or a tornado], but fuel is now going to be a major consideration and there is no way to know what the cost of diesel will be next year or the after....See MoreHELP! Problems with the builder, need advice!
Comments (19)Hi samjal Be very careful with the numbers you are receiving from both builders. I am certain those are not apples to apples comparisons. We live in Cleveland, OH and the our two markets are VERY similar in terms of price and construction. We are in the process of designing and building a custom home in the suburbs and know that a high end home costs, on average, $150-$200 sq ft. Your finishing are what will really increase the price (in addition to complexity of architectural design and interior features). We checked with multiple award winning custom home builders (all with architects and interior designers) and all of them were around the same price range. Didn't matter if the house was 3000 sq ft or 7500 sq ft, same comparables in terms of quality and construction. One of the parade of homes in Cleveland was 5800 sq ft. That house was 1.5 million and the land was 300k of that. So $206 per sq ft. And that was a phenomenal award winning builder. Even in the 600k range, you should be able to get a high end custom home builder in Ohio. However, you will likely be looking at $150+ if you want anything close to luxury. Anything Sater designed is luxury / custom grade NOT builder (i.e. cheap) grade. As far as design costs go... we are paying $22,000 (50% up front, rest due when designs are 90% complete). That cost includes: 1. A custom designed set of buildable Architectural Drawings that incorporate all of your personal design specification, based on lot requirements and restriction, deed restrictions, personal input and budget. The architectural plans will include foundation plans, first and second floor plans, elevations, all relative sections, a roofing plan, a proposed basement finished plan and all other drawings required for home completion. 2. Interior Selection/Design Services - The cost will included 10 - 4 hour design/selection meeting at a variety of locations and detailed interior drawings and layouts as needed. We will be doing some computer generated images of specific interior design elements for some rooms / basement. 3. The structural design will be stamped by a Profession Structural engineer and will account for any unique soil conditions existing on the site. 4. A detailed survey will be included with existing topographical information, driveway layout, house layout, house proposed floor elevations and a proposed rough grading plan. 5. Time and effort required to receive zoning approval and any zoning variances required for the proposed agreed upon layout. Any applicable variance fees are included. 6. Final drawings to be given to the purchaser in electronic reproducible format. If you do not have a contract for design services that is close to what I posted, do not even consider the builder. You should also retain full rights to your plans and designs. The construction contract would be separate, however with our builder at the table... we have been able to keep a firm check on construction costs and several times have the option to discuss costs with subcontractors to make sure they were within budget limits. Since our markets are very similar, please make sure you are getting the same quality treatment and not getting ripped off by a sub-standard builder....See MoreAdvice for interviewing/selecting an architect for a modest addition?
Comments (1)So having just read your other thread, we are in a similar situation, though we've already finished our work. Lots of houses undergoing similar work in our neighborhood, and re-sale prices of those homes have more than justified our decision to expand (plus the bank appraisal for our post-reno refi came in much above what we had put into it). We hired an architect first, and ended up working with a contractor who he recommended (after reviewing a few bids). The benefit to that is that they work together well, so there was no confusion about the architect's intents, and they could resolve any questions without even having to get us involved. We loved our architect because in addition to designing a great layout for us, he hewed to the budget. I have seen many others have issues where the architect design for them (meaning the architect), or for 'what people are doing'. Inevitably those come in way above what should be (based on our experience) a reasonable budget. So I would suggest 1) someone whose temperment you like 2) someone who has designed similar work and 3) someone who listens to you and incorporates your wants in a creative manner while bringing up other things you may not have thought about....See MoreFloor Plan Design Dilemma for New Build (Need Architect Advice)
Comments (158)In Ontario any homeowner can submit their own drawings, however, they will be reviewed by the planning department to ensure the drawings meet code. However, a professional I,e, draftsman, designer, architectural technologist etc must complete and pass exams and thus obtain a (Building code identification no) BCIN. An architect does not require a BCIN, however, they must be licensed in the province in order to have construction drawings approved. Some further explanations http://www.andythomson.ca/2016/11/15/why-a-bcin-is-not-an-architect/...See MoreNaf_Naf
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