*Urgent* Need help with placement of island in my angled kitchen!
heatherk01
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Comments (16)Azmom, you do not have your email enabled on your profile. Therefore, I am unable to respond directly to your request for assistance. I will respond here, so that others may have the benefit of the information as well. First of all, for your island, it will not be used at all unless you do have a water source on it. The primary prep zone in any kitchen is between water and fire and adjacent to the storage. That's the tiny corner between your sink and the range. UNLESS you put a prep sink on the island. When you do that, and it doesn't have to be anything larger than 14", that transforms the island into the primary prep space with you facing out towards those who are seated there rather than you standing with your face in the corner and your back to the guests. The square shape that Holly suggested could work and adds additional storage. I think the important takeaway from that is to have the "working " portion of the aisle facing the fridge and cooking surface. That minimizes your walking all over the kitchen to prepare a meal. A larger kitchen isn't a better kitchen, unless it's designed to be. Putting an island in the middle of a kitchen makes it less efficient, not more efficient---unless that island is in the right spot, with the right orientation, and has a water source on it. A large chunky island looks appropriate to the space,and I think the square works (especially with some nice chunky legs to make it more of a "table") but you could just make the island narrower and oriented left to right instead of top to bottom. Here is one tweak to Holly's plan that I might make if you are OK with walking further in your prep, but only if you are willing to use a counter depth refrigerator or a built in one. Refrigerators belong on the perimeter of the kitchen space so that they can be accessed by those coming into the space without crossing your prep space. It's the busiest spot in the kitchen, and you have to have enough room for everyone to have that access. Whether or not you want to swap the wall oven with the fridge will depend on how often you use the wall oven for cooking. If you frequently sear something and then put it in the oven to finish, the range suggestion would be a good one. Or have the range be on the same run as the cooktop with the fridge across the aisle. If you are more into getting out fresh veggies and preparing them for a meal, then leaving Holly's plan alone might be the best layot for you. Either depends on having the prep sink there so that you actually use the island. Without a prep sink on the island, you're creating more work, more steps, and you'll default to just prepping in the corner....See MoreUrgent help needed on kitchen window placement
Comments (2)It's your pantry that's throwing you off. And, right now, the right side of the room has all of the tall cabinets, making the whole thing "tipsy" feeling and too heavy on one side. (At least that's how I drew it out.) Pantry/fridge/oven walls work best when they're on a separate free standing wall, not when they're attached to other parts of the kitchen. WHy not have 2 pantries in each of the corners. That would look a lot more symmetrical and make the job of centering the windows much easier. You could then place the oven stack adjacent to the pantry on the left nearer the cooktop and the fridge adjacent to the pantry on the right, and still have room for a snack center next to it. Symmetry. Or, another alternative would be to move the wall oven into the other corner....See MoreUrgent help - corner oven placement
Comments (15)Sorry to be blunt, but I would despise having the wall ovens to the left of the sink like that. It looks weird, I'd feel crowded at the sink, and it ruins would is otherwise a very handy stretch of counter. I'd also remove all the upper cabinets from the sink wall and just have them on the stove wall (let the window breath a bit more), but if you kept those uppers, I'd not see those and think, "What on earth?" the way I would with the odd double oven placement. What is this, and can we put the pantry or the fridge here instead? Suggestions: 1) As others have said, if the chef doesn't like the wall ovens where the KD suggested, under counter ovens are always an option. 2) I agree with others who said the walkways around the island look too tight. If having a counter right next to the fridge isn't that important to you, you could put the fridge here: And then the wall the fridge was on could be nothing but 12"-15" deep pantry cabinets. That would free up more space for walking around the island and give you a magnificent pantry. 3) If you did suggestion #2, you could also widen the doorway into the dining room, which might make the chef find the placement of the wall ovens in front of that doorway less objectionable. 4) What is with the two arches that are just a couple feet apart from each other? I've never seen anything like it. How is the space in between them used, and what is beyond the arches? There is a lot of potential for putting something there that would benefit the kitchen, but we'd need to know the constraints....See MoreNeed help for my kitchen (specifically custom cabinets for my island)
Comments (7)To figure out what you can really fit, keep in mind the following: Standard base cabinets + counters along the perimeter are 25.5" deep (24" deep cabinet + 1.5" counter overhang) Standard base cabinets + counters in an island or peninsula are 27" deep (24" deep cabinet + 1.5" counter overhang along the front + 1.5" counter overhang along the back) Heights: Counter height counters are 36" off the finished floor (34.5" base high cabinets + approx 1.5" thick counters) Bar-height counters are 42" off the finished floor (40.5" base high cabinets or pony wall + approx 1.5" thick counters) Table-height counters are 30" off the finished floor - usually no base cabinets, just legs or similar for seating - similar to a table Note that counter stools are designed to meet one of the above standards Island/Peninsula seating: Counter-height: minimum 15" of clear knee/leg overhang and 24" of linear space per seat Bar-height: minimum 12" of clear knee/leg overhang and 24" of linear space per seat Table-height: minimum 18" of clear knee/leg overhang and 24" to 30" of linear space per seat Aisle widths Minimum aisle width for one-person kitchen: 42" Minimum aisle width for two or more people in the kitchen (prepping, cooking, and/or cleaning up): 48" Aisle width behind seats with no traffic or counters or cabinets or appliances behind the seats: 44" Aisle width behind seats if only minimal traffic and no counters or cabinets or appliances behind the seats: 48" Aisle width behind seats if normal traffic and/or counters or cabinets or appliances behind the seats: 60" Appliances Depth measurement for aisle determination is from the handles or whatever sticks out into the aisle the farthest. Measuring/determining aisle widths Important: Always measure from counter edge-to-counter edge or to/from appliance handles, not cabinet-to-cabinet. . Now, to determine what you can reasonably fit in your kitchen: Add the items together for what you plan to have. Note that with a 10' deep kitchen, your best option for seating in the kitchen is a peninsula, not an island....See Moreheatherk01
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