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Anyone have an easier/ better idea for master suite layout?

6 years ago

I recently extended my master bedroom and added a 4th bedroom and a 3rd full bathroom to our house. Now, I'd like to make the old "main bathroom" into a half bathroom and use the excess floor space as part of a large master bathroom with open closet area. The problem is that I'm on a slab foundation and a tight budget. After tearing out the drywall, I see that the copper cold water manifold is right in the middle of my proposed shower, which means more digging to re-route to a wall. The below photos are my "before" layout and my "proposed" layout. The yellow line is the main sewer line going to the front yard. The blue dot is the copper cold water stub coming through the concrete. (I plan to connect the hot water at the water heater with PEX in the attic). Just an FYI, I plan on hiring a plumber for the rough plumbing and my husband and I will do all the demo (concrete demo as well), framing, electrical, finish plumbing and tile,drywall etc. I'm looking for a plumbing perspective in particular. Thanks in advance!

BEFORE---

PROPOSED----

SKETCHUP VIEW OF PROPOSED LAYOUT-

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Bri Bosh
6 years ago
There is a lot of wasted space in that shower. The open closet is a bad idea. It’s going to look cluttered and messy, plus humidity issues. Back to the drawing board!
Aimee M. thanked Bri Bosh
Aimee M.
Original Author
6 years ago
Do you think a 6' X 7' closet area would be better contained with a door?
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Beth H. :
6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago
an open closet in the bathroom? no. absolutely not. make that a separate area. wall it off from the bathroom and have the entry from the bedroom area.

that shower you have there,,,does that say 6'? it's hard to read the diagram.

we redid our complete bathroom/bedroom. I put the master across from the bathroom. (also an addition). Houzz did a story on it here: (I have diagrams)

[https://www.houzz.com/magazine/reader-bathroom-a-plant-filled-master-bath-no-tub-needed-stsetivw-vs~85330392[(https://www.houzz.com/magazine/reader-bathroom-a-plant-filled-master-bath-no-tub-needed-stsetivw-vs~85330392)

BTW, moving that sewer line is the absolute worst on a slab. You better confirm you have enough room for the proper slope for that sewer line. I had to get mine checked out first by my plumber before we even started this fiasco.

we had to dig almost 30'. (had to hire someone w/a commercial concrete saw. no way we could have done that ourselves) I can't even tell you how horrible this process is....

the guy who cut this actually does it commercially for a living. took him almost 4 hours. (he didn't even charge us that much, but I would have paid him double if he asked!)

We removed all of the chunks ourselves. hope you have strong young men/teenage boys to help!

cutting the slab from that wall, all the way down to the opposite wall
toilet is just to the right of where he is,,,,shower drain is below, where the L ends.
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JAN MOYER
6 years ago
Toilets and soil pipes are about PITCH. Too much is bad, as is too little. Don't underestimate the concrete issue. It is your basic........nightmare : )
Aimee M.
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6 years ago
Beth H. I just saw your comments and photos on here. Thank you for uploading pics. Ugh, looks like a lot of work. I'm trying to come up with other solutions. I'm surprised that you and a couple others don't like the idea of closet access from the bathroom. My last house had a large walk in closet with access from the master bathroom and I loved it. I thought it was so convenient to go straight from the shower into the closet to get dressed. I think you're right about it needing to have a door. It will look cluttered if it's open. Your new master suite is beautiful.

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