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Greenhouse film on stoophouse in summer?
Comments (11)Sounds like you've really thought this project out thoroughly! I think I follow what you have planned. The main criticism I have is with the 6-mil film you plan to use. Having used 6-mil myself for several years before arriving at the product I use now, I can say that it's flimsy and easily prone to tearing. Commercial gh's that use inflated film covering will use 11-mil on the exterior, and, if they're trying to cut costs, will use the 6-mil on the inside because it doesn't require as much durability. By attaching your film just on the edges of the structure, you'll be asking for trouble. 6-mil stretches, and no matter how tight you pull it, it'll still flap in the wind. Also, with so much potential force focused on a single attachment point along the edge, it'll be prone to pulling free...unless you somehow roll it a couple times around something to evenly-distribute the force. The problem with the wind blowing over it is the element of "lift." Depending upon the wind direction, even with the ends open, the covering will alternately want to rise, then snap back down against the frame. A few hours of windy conditions is all you could ask of 6-mil. Even though the cost is higher, I'd highly recommend the 5.2-ounce translucent tarp linked below. It's 12-mil, and has a woven fabric of fibreglas "tapes" inside the plastic for strength. It's like iron, doesn't stretch, and can withstand just about anything you throw at it. Since it's stronger, and heavier, you'll have less of an issue with it tearing free from attachment points. You also may be able to get away with wider spans, saving you on some rebar. Another plus is the light diffusion through it -- no possibility of burning tender plants/seedlings. I'd have much greater confidence in this material meeting your needs, only attaching it along the edges. The one weakness as I see it for your application is that the largest width available is twelve feet. FarmTek has two products that would be suitable for this purpose. The first one is their Super Tape Seaming & Repair Tape, which is $22.95 for a 3"x60' roll, or $32.95 for a 6"x60' roll. The second is the Premium Repair Tape (product #105383), which is $71.95 for a 4"x100' roll. I'd feel safest sealing both the outside and inside edge, with a 6" overlap of the tarp. Hope your idea for securing the framing against possible racking works OK. If it didn't for some reason, you could retrofit easily with a support line and stake on either end. If you can find a good source for purchasing the wrapping material (to cover the rebar) you described in bulk, that's probably a good bet. I know FarmTek sells something for this purpose, but I'll be darned if I can find it now. The only thing I'd suggest is to use a good-quality tape. I know duct tape is a popular do-all, fix-all, but it performs miserably whenever moisture and heat are present! For this reason, you may want to consider a wire-wrap over the packing material, as an inexpensive material to tightly secure it. Removing the covering in the summer will expose all your handiwork to the elements, so that's another thing to consider. All that work to wrap your rebar may not survive unprotected. Hope there was something helpful here. -Bruce Here is a link that might be useful: 5.2-ounce fabric at FarmTek...See Moredouble layering film and shutters
Comments (3)Maybe i am confused by the pictures i was looking at. I assummed that it was a one peice unit.And it looked like the mounting flange that you screw to the frame was on the inside. Are the motorized shutters a one peice unit that mounts on the inside of the greenhouse? I say mounts , but am taliking about the flange that you screw to the frame. My frame is 1 1/2 square tubing. Also is the exhaust fan, is it a one peice unit with the shutters and fan attached? and does it attach to the greenhouse frame from the inside.Or is it a 2 peice unit with the fan on the inside and the shutters a seperate unit that attaches to the outside of the frame. I hope i am a little clearer on what i need to know....See MoreHoophouse Covering
Comments (14)Maybe it's obvious to most, but to get the insulation value from double layer plastic you need an inflator fan on at all times to keep a layer of air between the plastic sheets. We just put up our first hoophouse this fall (20x32), for exactly the same uses as Heirloom_Lady, starting this spring. It came as a kit, with 6mil plastic, and included the fan. I hadn't quite registered on the fan part till actually ordering and building it. We had to run 200' of heavy duty extension out into the field to power the fan, but I'll replace that with a little solar panel and battery this summer. The fan also makes the hoophouse more aerodynamic or whatever, more wind-worthy, but if the fan stops, there might be a problem with the looser layers vibrating in a high wind (I've read that emergency power for the fans is a good idea, hence the solar panel thing, around $250 for all the gear, and get rid of another wire!). We're planning to set out hardy seedlings in March/April, and than have a few early tomatoes and peppers as a tet during the season. Want to build another, bigger unheated production house for next winter, and use floating row covers inside for winter spinach, mache, carrots, etc (a la Eliot Coleman)....See MoreFrench Film
Comments (1)I love most anything I see on Sundance or IFC (Independent Film Channel). Thanks for the recommendation. I'll see if it's going to be on again....See Moremtnrdredux_gw
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