Sounds like a Harley in my basement! Trane variable speed air handler
SML_Andy
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Comments (8)Rose, Did those prices include the rebates? They appear "reasonable" based on the equipment quoted, but the ductwork add-on cost is high in my opinion. I strongly recommend the duct replacement/improvement if it is 25 years old and in poor condition (i.e., not well sealed if at all, falling apart, etc.). For that price, I would hope it includes sheet metal plenums and trunklines, sealed with mastic and insulated with R8 fiberglass insulation along well properly done R8 flex duct branches to the registers. It makes little sense to me to invest big bucks on equipment and combine it with an inefficient and/or improperly sized duct system. I think your approach is right to get more estimates and see where they come in to get a proper feel for the pricing in your market -- it truly does vary by area. If they are actually considerably lower (and you'd have to wonder what corners they'd be cutting), it looks like the contractor you seem to prefer is willing to work with you. I am sure you have read enough to know that finding the right installer is very critical in having a reliable, well-performing system. It sounds like you have found a good one by what you describe. I take it he/she did a load calculation based on the information they gathered and verified 3 ton is the proper size? Lastly, Trane is the right way to go in my opinion especially in an environment such as yours where the air is highly corrosive over time to the units. I visit Ocean City, MD somewhat regularly and it is very evident which units hold up better over time and still seem to be working well: Trane. Also, some great questions to be answered as provided by TD above. There are lots of details that need to be included on the written estimate. The above is a good start. This post was edited by ryanhughes on Sun, May 12, 13 at 11:07...See MoreSpeed settings on veriable speed air handler
Comments (8)Hello Ray and all. I have tried to get them to install the Honeywell but to no luck yet. This is the oldest Trane dealer in area around 25 years in county. I asked the difference of the tec when he was out of the 803 ans 804 Stat. He had no idea. Lady in the office sort of snooty also. On the 803 say I have Humidity set at 50%. How high should it go before it turns on system to try and deal with it? We had tem at 77 humidity at 50% . Came home it was 77 but humidity at 53% and not running. Shouldn't it attempt to control humidity no mater where it is set?, Oh Ray to answer your question house is 1640 SF including the 240 sf insulated glass room we added on. They installed a 3 ton HP. Up from 2.5 ton we had before adding room. Could it also be because the tem outside is not high yet but humidity is. Thought system not needing to cool long enough to bring down humidity. Couls it be son takes long hot showers and doesn't always turn bathroom fan on? Sorry all the questions, just after $6000 want the thing to work the way it should....See MoreTrane variable speed air handler setting
Comments (6)I'm not too familiar with this new air handler from Trane. I believe they did away with dipswitches and went to an LCD-type control on the board. So there are settings to scroll through. Not sure if they left the installation instructions, so might have to rely on a competent tech. Condensation is normal -- too much could indicate airflow too low, or just very humid weather -- hard to judge from here whether it was a normal amount given the conditions. As TD said above, the noise is either from undersized ductwork, improper air handler speed settings, or both. If it's that noisy, the company should come back out. If they changed the airflow, they should have checked the refrigerant charge. What does the ticket say?...See MoreVariable Speed Heat Pumps (Trane vs Rudd)
Comments (22)I was asking specifically about comparing the operating costs of the same piece of equipment in various states. You stated the high stage is less efficient because it uses more energy. The high stage does use more electricity, but it should be operating for a shorter period of time. This is a hard question to answer... because the answer depends on many different things. The question is does the shorter operating time at a higher output offset the higher use in energy? The main reason the higher output exists is 'typically' to maintain comfort of the structure during high load times. How you asked this question is misguided, because a two or more staged AC is designed in which it will engage the lower stage first which will cause the system to run longer at a reduced energy usage. If the lower output doesn't maintain the load of the structure only then will the higher output engage... meaning stage 2 or higher. The idea going forward in manufacturing processes of higher end HVAC systems is what is called 'Load Matching'. In order to understand what 'load matching' is you must know what a load is. A load is ANY heat producing source placed on a structure that you are trying to cool via mechanical means. (Air Conditioning) Realize the load... how ever much it amounts to be is constantly changing. The heat of the day, appliances in the structure, radiant heat, convection, people, the structures envelope, lighting, area or volume --- anything that produces heat in the structure is a load. Now that you have a better grasp on what a heating load is... let's change the equation a little to hopefully convey this to you so you understand it. Let's say you are a produce farmer and at one orchard you have 150 tons of apples that need to be hauled to market. 150 Tons of apples is your load. This load requires work to move the 150 tons to market. You could use a pick up truck to move this load, but it would be extremely inefficient it would take you many trips. The best way to move this load is via semi tractor trailer. At a new smaller orchard you just started producing cherries and you have 500 pounds to move to market. 500 pounds is your load in this case. Now does it make any sense to you to pay for a semi tractor trailer to move this load? The heat of the day is from 3-6pm. This is the only time a home needs a semi in the way of an air conditioner to move the heat from inside to outside. The rest of the day it only needs a pick up truck. 1/8 to 1/6 of a day --- semi --- 7/8 to 5/6 of the day --- pick up truck. Short cycling does not equal efficiency... short cycling equals wear and tear and job security for me. Provided of course that the flaming rock in the sky does not burn out....See MoreSML_Andy
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