which trade should be involved to take down a load bearing wall ?
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Question: Load bearing walls and poured-wall basement
Comments (12)building off of what renovator said, if you have load bearing walls on the first floor, you need to align structure below them in the basement. This can be beams or walls. Frame walls will be your cheapest option in most cases. However if you do not want a wall there, then price is not always the driving factor. However if you are a single story plus a basement, you shouldn't have too many first floor interior bearing walls. If you use steel or LVL beams, they must be sized to carry the first floor load as well as the loads placed on the first floor (2nd floor and possibly roof loads). As you can guess, this can make wood beams, even built up, quite deep. Steel might be your best bet here if you have longer spans between columns in your basement to keep head room heights at ideal levels. I tend to disagree with the claim in wood costing more then steel. Steel will cost more then wood in most cases. The post can be hidden inside walls (why would you do this? save the money and make the wall bearing! unless of course you have a very high point load) or they can be boxed out and made decorative. I joists should actually be cheaper then a floor truss, but typically cost a little more then solid 2x8-12 framing. However IMO, I joists are far superior. They can be had in very long spans so they can lay a continuous 30'+ joist across your load bearing beams/walls and allow for straighter and faster construction. Also, depending on the depth of them and the spacing, they can easily clear span 20'+. Plus they are a "greener" product. Trusses will cost more, but the benefit you have there is the web openings to allow easy smaller duct runs and electrical access....See MoreAwkward Corner with load-bearing wall (pics)
Comments (8)smallkitchen, why call it a "very awkward corner"? It's OK. It's nine feet from the return walls to the curtains. That's fine. I might put an iMac control / message center in that corner, along with a comfy armchair. Definitely not a dining table, because I don't like having that as a focal point upon entering. The other "small" wall, visible in images 4, 5, and especially 6, has to stay there. When you enter, you see it first. It's really a big focal point. Right now it's white like the other walls. I'd put a medium size tall mirror on it to draw your eye away from it and away from the curtained wall too. Of course I haven't seen what the mirror would show, the rest of the space and the views, so take that FWIW. Hmm, I think I read that you want to take it down, and leave only a column. I wouldn't do that. Too much open space is not good. Walling off some space is good. Perhaps a frosted window there, next to a tall narrow mirror, might do it.... but it's lots of work for little impact, imho based not on being there but only seeing photos. If I bought your space, here are a number of improvements which I'd shoot for. This list is derived from rewriting other poster's comments saying what they like best about their new kitchen, and edited to suit your small space. 30" deep counters on one side Uninterrupted counterspace Enough useful counterspace in each area More space to prep defined areas - clean up food (running water and places to hold, i.e. sink and DW) - heat food (oven/cooktop or range, MW) - store food (refrigerator, pantry, drawer for bread, drawer for spices garlic & onion bin, separate cool dark dry place for potato bin, etc) A message center. A place to sit. A place to bake. A place to prep. A place to wash up. A stool or perch for the second person in the kitchen Distinct work zones with relevant tools stored there; 2 sets of some articles Space that enables both to cook simultaneously; 2 distinct zones Layout arranged to get more natural light and better views No wall cabinets in one of the zones / areas Uncluttered counters: knife pullout and appliance garage "Yay for less stuff on my gorgeous counters!" Natural light maximized via windows and lack of obstructions Light, lots and lots of light Overhead recessed Under cabinet task lighting Under cabinet lighting -- ditto Pretty pendants dimmer switches Dimmers ... "didn't think we needed undercab lights, but we put them in and I love them. I don't care for overhead lighting much. I love the undercab lights and I can work without the recessed on overhead. I put dimmers on everything in the kitchen and I love how it can be 'romantic' in the kitchen"... window looking into woods mirrors & mirror film on glass cabinet doors, located to maximize natural light from window natural light, sunshine, a light airy feeling, and pretty views out the windows. ...A general quality of the space that makes you want to be there, whether you're cooking or not... Induction cooktop ..."Clean up is such a breeze and induction uses less energy than conventional electric or gas. It's so fast and it has a setting so low as to barely melt chocolate"... Dish drawer dishwasher Big one bowl sink Big one bowl siligranite sink Super single Blanco sink a fridge with a freezer on the bottom Smaller fridge place to store a stepstool if your cabs go to the ceiling pullout in extra deep base, for pantry Toe Kick drawers ...Toekick drawers that others have (darn for not finding this forum sooner)... Bread drawer ..."Of all the expensive things in my new kitchen, my simple bread drawer is my favorite thing. It keeps the breads and bakery items off of the counter and I don't have to keep it in the fridge"... pot and pan drawers Pots and pans drawers a drawer for dishes Deep drawers Drawers, drawers, and more drawers lots of drawers ..."I keep my daily dishes in one and my shoulders appreciated not having to lift them into a wall cupboard. I hated the two "door" cabinets I had because I had to sit on the floor to dig things out. The new kitchen is almost all drawers -- and the two door cupboards have pullouts this time"... Soft close mechanism Full-extension drawer glides Full extension drawers "... wouldn't be without them..." Big deep drawers and a slim cabinet to stand your cookie sheets in flat storage cabinet for trays, mats, etc., and a vertical storage cabinet for platters, plus a pull-out for baking boards cabinet full of vertical racks for storing cutting boards, platters, cookie sheets, etc. A pitchers and vases cupboard or deep drawer. Frameless cabinets maximize volume inside. Never MT Never MT "...haven't filled a soap bottle in over two years... Tapmaster "...really saves on water usage and makes it so easy to wash hands when they're all gunky... Flat-screen tv; sound system under-cabinet molding/trim. ...The cabinets look *framed* and *finished*... ..."I should have put in pullouts (with doors attached) for spices, small appliances. I did pullout trays (deep and shallow - would have been better all deep), but you still have to open the doors and then pull them out. It would have been better all drawers/pullouts (with doors attached)"... ---- I didn't mention disposers and trash: how is garbage managed in your condo building? -- David...See MoreRemoving a load-bearing wall... $10,000!
Comments (29)it will cost less to use a dropped header.... Everyone has their opinions. THose that didn't do it, think it looks fine and isn't worth the money to flush it up. those of us who flushed it up think its worth it. I don't know exactly, how much mine cost, we are doing a whole house remodel. I had a cape style house and I flushed up/removed the entire load bearing interior wall that ran down teh middle of the house, it broke up what is now my kitchen into the dining room, and divided my living room in 2. I do know it took 4 pieces of steel and 6 microlams (2 peices of steel per side of the stairs, and 3 microlams per side) the steel total was $2500. I also had to add a steel support column in my basement on a footing. in my situation, I was removing bedrooms to open up the kitchen, and living room it was definately worth it. It made the renovation completely integrated and looks like a colonial not a renovated cape. you have to decide whether it looks natural where you have it, or unsightly....See MoreLoad bearing wall sanity check
Comments (4)Thanks for the responses. I've met with some other contractors, who actually looked at the framing and are confident it's not load-bearing. Interestingly the guy who made such a fuss about it talked to his boss and now agrees it's not an issue---that would have gone over much better if he'd started with something like "I'm concerned about this wall and will research more" rather than "you can't do that."...See MoreMattman
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