You DEFINITELY cannot judge a bloom accurately on an immature own-root plant. The color is usually correct, but just as hoovB says, the form and petal count will vary. That's why it really doesn't bother me much to pinch off the early blooms. They won't look like much anyhow, and you'll have a stronger plant, more quickly. IF your rose had opened its first bloom, and the flower was PURPLE, or RED, or any other color u nrelated to the supposed color, you could assume your rose was mis-labelled. It happens -- even rose vendors make errors. My grandmother told me that's why they put erasers on "lead pencils." But in this case, it's probably just immaturity. Jeri

Since 'Jolly Bee' received its patent before 'Rozanne' and it has slightly different documented parentage, it would be hard to support any claim of patent infringement :-) I grow both myself and while they share a close similarity in flower color and length of bloom time, I do notice a difference between the two plants. JB is much more upright and a bit of a clumper, staying within about a 24" diameter. Rozanne is a sprawler, with stems that have extended 3-4 feet, sometimes more, and it is a low grower that clambers up and through neigboring plants. Rozanne also sports distinct chartreuse or grass green marbling to the new foliage, which JB lacks. But the distinctions are subtle and something that someone other than a plant geek might easily overlook.

By george, I think you nailed it! Bless you. My photo has more buds, but I can call around locally first. These people around here usually buy at the big box places, not always. Thank you!!! I did try to google myself and got nowhere with it.

Thank you! No, you don't really "sell cuttings", but there is always hope someone who is already set up with the appropriate licenses might want to introduce and sell a promising seedling. "Tiny" isn't as much of an inhibition to raising seedlings as you might presume. Fortunately, most aren't worth retaining, so while you may germinate hundreds, it's fairly easy to cull that number down to a few dozen, or less. Plus, it is exciting and FUN, especially for someone who finds genetics fascinating. Unless you spend several full time schedules at work, "retirement" isn't really necessary to be able to breed plants and raise seedlings. You can begin as easily as simply collecting the seeds from self set hips from the roses in your garden, planted in a flower pot, or go "larger" by building tables or planters similar to what I have posted on my blog, here. Planting seed and raising seedlings honestly isn't difficult, nor does it require huge investments of money, time or room. You control all of those variables, so you can practice while you are still chained to other pursuits, and decide if and when you want to make it more "involved". I was more than a little "obsessive" in generating crosses this year and will definitely have more seeds to plant than I can handle. I think the spread sheet showed somewhere around 415 different crosses I've already collected and bagged seed from...so far, and there are ONLY around a hundred more tagged crosses out back ripening, so that number could swell very easily. If you would like to play, practice, it would be easy, and my pleasure, to supply you with some seeds to experiment with. If you're interested, you can either private message me here, or use my screen name here to send an email through the long-hated (for good reason) America on Line. Kim Rupert is on Help Me Find, so there are better photos of the flowers than I can take while my plant remains in its pot. "I" hate to be potted! In any sense of the terms. Mr. Moore used to sell the seedlings which weren't exactly what he'd imagined in his mind's eye for $2 at the nursery. Paul Barden bought this one because the breeding intrigued him. The plant is one which doesn't show its mettle confined in a pot. Once Paul grew it out and saw what it could do, he contacted Mr. Moore and offered him the rose because he felt it should be introduced. They initially offered it to Sean McCann, but Sean wanted an exhibition HT to bear his name. Paul called me one night with the offer to name it for me because of my fascination with Mr. Moore's stripes and mosses. The rest is history!