Question About Roses and Freezing Temperatures
alameda/zone 8/East Texas
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alameda/zone 8/East Texas
6 years agozack_lau z6 CT ARS Consulting Rosarian
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band roses in gallon pots outside in freezing temperatures
Comments (3)I have to leave my bands outside - my greenhouse wont hold them all [however, I have several really special ones from Vintage that I do take inside]. Our temps can fluctuate here in east Texas - earlier in the week it was nearly 80 - now its in the mid 30's. Our winters usually can go down to 25 for a few hours occasionally. Mine have wintered fine - although I worry. In spring, they revive and leaf out beautifully. Since you only have a few, what can it hurt to bring them in the garage? Some of my smaller bands that cannot be replaced are going inside - then out again when its warmer. Really wish I had a huge greenhouse where I could house them......I always worry when they look like sticks - I do top the gallon pots with mulch, don't know if this helps. Would like to hear how others overwinter their bands....... Judith...See MoreHello, and a question about Freezing
Comments (8)Congrats on the new kitchen and welcome to the Cooking forum! I also mostly cook for one - and I make my dog's food and freeze it. A Food Saver can be your friend! I freeze pork chops, chicken pieces, hamburger patties, and fish portions on a metal cookie sheet. Then I wrap the individually frozen portions in plastic wrap or wax paper and place 2-4 portions in a Saver bag and vacuum seal the bag. This way the food doesn't actually touch the vacuum bag and the vacuum bag can be reused. Another cost saving tip: freeze "plops" of tomato paste, mashed chipotle peppers in adobo, pesto, or other highly flavored ingredients that can be used in cooking or sauces. First freeze the plops on a plastic picnic plate, then when frozen, put in heavy freezer zip bags or a Food Saver bag and vacuum seal. Flavored butters can be done this way and frozen in large pats or put in very small plastic sauce containers. Look at the grocery store for foil mini loaf pans and pot pie pans. I keep these on hand and if used carefully they can be used many times. By freezing in a mini loaf pan first, the brick of frozen food can be easily slightly thawed and popped out just like a big ice cube. That freezer paper with one side coated is good for large pieces of frozen meat, but for long term storage, the vacuum sealer or Food Saver will be better at preventing freezer burn and deterioration from air getting to the food. Grainlady is right about freezing chili; I think I prefer it as a topping for a baked potato or taco salad than eating it just by itself. Soupy foods like chicken a la king or beef stew can be frozen (without the potatoes) and topped with quickly made biscuits for a quick, hot meal. Sometimes I will make taco-flavored ground beef to freeze, but most often I make a recipe of meatballs and keep in the freezer. Here is my favorite recipe: Freezer Stash Meatballs 3 lbs. lean ground beef 1 cups soft bread crumbs 3 eggs 6 tablespoons minced onion 3 cloves garlic, crushed 1 ½ teaspoons salt ½ teaspoon pepper Preheat oven to 400. In a large bowl, mix beef, crumbs, eggs, onion, garlic, salt and pepper. Shape into 11/2-inch meatballs. (A miniature ice cream scoop makes fast work of shaping.) Arrange in two 10-by-15-inch jelly roll pans. Bake in preheated oven until meat is browned, with no trace of pink and juices run clear, 10 to 13 minutes. Drain, let cool to room temperature, divide into fourths and freeze each portion in vapor-moisture proof containers. (I use my FoodSaver). Each portion serves 2. The meatballs can be added to simmering tomato pasta sauce for spaghetti and meatballs, used to make Sweet and Sour meatballs over rice, used to make a meatball sub, added to Swedish meatball sauce and served over noodles, or put in a soup. You might want to pick up some heavy duty plastic freezer storage bags at the store. And I always advise folks to double wrap any food you are storing in the freezer for long term. Teresa...See MoreQuestion about blooms and temperatures
Comments (8)I have the same issue here in Dallas. I think Houston is expected to get down to 28, most rosebuds will survive that if it’s not too prolonged. If they are in movable pots, I’d move them under eaves or covered patio just to be safe, but most likely you’re OK anyway. Here is Dallas we are likely to get down to 24, which is more problematic. This spring (march) , we got down to 27 while all my buds were already well formed and they had no damage whatsoever, rose growth can easily withstand a light frost if doesn’t linger....See MoreAt what temperature do roses get freeze damage?
Comments (11)I agree that there's so much diversity in roses that using one rule to decide for them isn't necessarily a sure thing. I'm in a totally different zone of course, but the rule of thumb to wait till the forsythia blooms is a good general benchmark for rose newbies that keeps most itchy fingers from doing too much damage. As an experienced rose grower, I let the rose tell me if it's ready to be pruned or not. Our forsythia tends to bloom in late March or even early April, and our last frost date is late April/early May, but I usually start pruning some roses at the beginning of March. Typically these are the extremely hardy roses like the Explorers that you couldn't hurt with any pruning, and since they're hardy to much colder temperatures they're ready to handle even late freezes whether or not they've leafed out. For the rest of my roses where there isn't a common factor to judge, I have two "tells" that indicate the rose is ready to be pruned: a) the canes are black to the ground and no pruning is going to start any growth whatsoever on that cane (a disturbing majority of my roses, I might add), or b) the leaf buds are thoroughly swollen and ready to pop. In the case of b), the rose is going to leaf out whether or not I prune, so I might as well get the unproductive cane out of the way so it doesn't waste energy trying to resurrect canes that are unhealthy. Yes a late frost might nip some of the growth, but it's going to do that whether or not I prune by that stage, so I might as well get the old canes out of the picture. I don't do any "shaping" pruning at this stage BTW, which might be more of what you do in warmer zones, and I usually wait till well past last frost for that. There are variants on this method if I get itchy fingers before I see a convincing case of leaf swell. I do a "pre-prune" to cut most of the damaged canes off without yet cutting into healthy cane. That is also a depressing number of the canes in my zone, and since I always have to do a second or third round of cleanup later in spring/summer for canes that looked healthy but weren't, this doesn't add much extra work. It also neatens up the garden for bulb season and lets me take advantage of the nice weather before spring planting is advised. I like this system since it gets me up close and personal with each rose and I start to learn their quirks and habits. Some roses are notoriously late to leaf out, and I learn not to mess with them at all beyond some pre-pruning and encouraging whispering now and then. I don't know if pruning would follow substantially different rules in your climate, but my suggestion is to build your own set of "tells" for your zone rather than trying to time it too much with the weather. As our weather gets more unpredictable, there will be more adverse events to work around. Watching the roses over the years will let you know which ones are more susceptible to that variation. Cynthia...See MoreSheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
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