I just checked and I would need 35" clearance for the washer area, from floor to underneath the counter.

I'm not exactly sure what Miele does in those situations, there may be a couple or more of solutions -- a lot of stackable dryers have a set of brackets connecting the back of the washer to the back of the dryer with a few strips that either prevent slippage (and damage to the washer top) or velcro. A few, like Bosh (and I think Miele) have a tray that goes between the washer and dryer, same deal with brackets, but the tray expands and retracts between the machines, becoming a folding surface or letting you put the laundry basket there to load/unload. Very practical.

Good luck!

Hi

Thank you for all your nice words about little me

To be honest I have had 4 washer and dryers stacked and my current Mieles are stacked. I have never used any stcking kit or anything else either for that matter. I just placed my dryer on top of the washer and there it has stayed for now almost 10 years without moveing abit. I have seen unbalanced load spinn in the washer and the dryer wibrates abit but never moves. Alot of people I know just places the dryer ontop and go about it.

Miele washer are so stable and smooth when spinning so I dont feel the need for a stackingkit. But if you feel the feet of the dryer are slideing easy ontop of the washer just use a thin peace of rubber to prevent slipping and I think you will fine. Do this first before any big operation of building of buying something.

Hope you are ok. Me am on holliday in gran canaria islands.

Pcpr, (paprika in auto correct lingo :), I didn’t want to stick them together cause I want the convenience of accessing the washer without installing the dryer. I was also hoping I could just stack on top in the short run until I make a table. That has been my new plan. Linus’s info is reassuring

Linus, It’s 8f degrees today. Overnight it was -3f . I’m so jealous! My son is in the Yucatán peninsula this week! You have fun in the sun!!! Thanks for the stacking info. This helps a lot. I still think I’ll do a table in the future for ease of repairs down the road.

You are so welcome and I am glad I am not visiting you...... Much nicer were I am.

I would not build a table or shelf or something else. Just let I sit on top of the washer, if something needs doing to the washer just take it down. I think is is harder to pull out the washer rather then lifting down the lighter dryer.

Larisa,

This has become an obsession rather quickly!!

Enduring,

My sets are installed with a stacking kit. I would not want the machines without the kits. Unfortunately, if memory serves me right, Miele discontinued many of the kits for the older models in the US. They now just send you four tabs to install on the top of your unit that clips into the legs of the dryers (I think it was less than $20). I have the original stacking kit for the W1966 series (you removed the top of the washer, added some full length slides that the legs of the dryer fit into), The pull out tray on the W1215 and there is no dryer on the W3033.

Good luck!

Larisa, you're a kindred spirit, lol. I have 3 sets. The one set is 4 years old and can be seen by company. The 2 sets in the basement are old sets, but new to me over the last 2 years. I do take special guests down to view them though. Glad to hear the stacked sets are working for you. I will probably place a thin piece of rubber under the dryer, as Linus suggest, to prevent scratching the washer tops.

Linus, I think I'll give your comments some thought about just lifting the dryer off, instead of moving the washer out from under a table.

Homepro, I have a stacking kit with my w3033 and dryer. So are you using several machines too?

Enduring,

I have three washers and two dryers. Thinking about the heat pump dryer for over the W3033. We will see. Trying to stop buying stuff.

Thats what I had until Sunday, lol. now I have 3 dryers! yippy. DH unloaded the dryer into the farm shop tuesday. Dryer was sitting out in the cold covered and protected from blowing snow. It had been stored in an unheated garage for several years and had worked the last time it was used. The seller was a Miele tech in England years ago before moving to the states. He said he always took time to clean it well and check the belts. $75.

It was a hell of a drive from St Paul back to central Iowa. It can be a nasty winter drive, and we only had to drive through a
couple inches of dry snow fall. No snow on the road much, most in the
air, blown by each passing truck. There is a stretch of I-35 in Iowa that has gates on the entrance ramps. At the Ames entrance and north to just at the Minnesota boarder, I believe. I dubbed them "Hell's Gates". They weren't closed. Prairie winds blowing snow across flat stretches make for awful conditions. We were planning to spend the night in the Twin Cities area if needed. With the roads dry, and minimal snow fall, a 4 hour trip still turned into a 6 hour trip.

Enduring,

That does not sound like a fun drive. I have been on a hunt for the condensation dryer locally but could only find vented dryers:-( Now, the heat pump one is on the way and I want that!!! No logical reason but I want one:-) Hope you enjoy your new dryer. I am sure you are having a great Laundry time now that you have three independent loads that can be run at all times. It takes about 6 hours to complete laundry for me and a household of four once every two weeks, this includes about 6 sets of sheets and 3 loads of towels! Usually have about 15 loads of laundry.

I’ll have to time myself. Homepro you sound very effeciant and organized. I gave up ;)

Work is a little overwhelming right now so I have to be super efficient. I like that all my laundry can be done at one and I can get the ironing done the next day and no longer for another two weeks or so!

Have fun with your setup.

Here we go. Nothing ducted yet, because all ducting needs reconfigured.

Taking Linus' advise and adding a rubber liner between the sets:

I want to put a laundry sink to the left of the machines, because I wouldn't be able to access the outlets if I place it to the right.

The "splitters" that Miele used to sell were safe enough -- they were, in fact, very beefed up power strips.

Truth is though, that those adaptors are practical for situations where one can't or doesn't want to alter the installation/hookups (renters, people who will be selling the home soon etc).

In your shoes, it's probably cheaper, and definitely better, to have one outlet per machine for a variety of reasons, including there are fewer things to wear out and/or go wrong in a fixed installation than in a power strip.

Thanks @pcpr-gw. Good thought about the durability.

May I hijack your thread for my own purposes, please? I've been lurking and reading the Miele advice posts (oh my where did the time go???) - you're all so generous with your advice!

I have an opportunity to buy a used W1918 / T 1515 set. Is there anything I really need to know first? What would be a fair price to pay for this suite? Seller is including the converter box. [I'm in southeastern PA, a bit more than an hour west of Philadelphia]. Thank you in advance!

does the washer have any leaks? My second 1918 had a leaky cold water solenoid valve and a crack in the rubber soap dispenser hose. Both I changed out myself. The solenoid wasn't cheap and no guarantee because I'm not a Miele tech, lol. The other issue is when they stop making parts for the 1918, because Miele only supplies parts for so long, which I don't know the number of years. Parts can be had on Ebay. On the second 1918, the hot water solenoid is leaking very slowly, so I haven't repaired that yet. I will sometime soon. I just keep the water main to the sets shut off between laundry days. I think I paid $125 for this second washer last fall.

I paid $75 for the latest t1515. I have not turned it on yet. I don't even know if it works. If not, I could become a parts machine for my other t1515. The guy I bought it from had it stored in his garage and said it worked the last time he had it hooked up. He bought it used himself and maintained it. He had been a Miele tech in England before he moved to the US.

If the owners of the set you are looking at have a very well maintained set, I'd pay more than what I paid, mentioned above. If they are sketchy and you want to work on them, I wouldn't pay more than $100 each.

One check that Linus suggested I make on my w1918 that I got last fall when I had it open was to bounce the outer drum to see if the shocks worked. This is with the machine case open.

If you do get this make sure you get the rods that insert into the back, used for safe transportation. Get the drain hose. Get the manual if there is one, otherwise you can find them online. I copied mine and put each page into a plastic sleeve and keep it all together in a 3 ring binder. Lots of special features that I just can't remember.

Enduring, you've got mad skillz - I will not be able to make any repairs myself!

I called Miele and they still have struts that I can buy for this model - but the washer isn't connected so no way to check if it's still working (though the owner asserts it all worked before).

But the owner is too optimistic on price. He wants $1000 for the set. (Less than the $2,500 somebody else nearby wants for a W1966/T1403 pair.)

And the truth is, I'm mostly interested in these because they include vented dryers. That's really what I'm after. My laundry area will be in a closet off my bedroom and I'm concerned about extra heat output from the condenser dryers ... and their lengthy dry cycles.

Thank you for taking the time to answer!

@Robyn, keep your eye on facebook market place, and craigs list. If that set you're looking at was completely gone over by a tech and repairs were made, I might give $1000. But not buying as is. Can you get a mixed set? I saw a t1515 for sale in central iowa for $100 on Craigslist. The $75 t1515 was on FB market place. I did drive to St Paul to get it though, in snow. He thought I was crazy. I havent plugged it in yet, that will be tonight.

@enduring - I did something similar for my Ironrite mangle .... It was in a walnut case!!! who wouldn't drive hundreds of miles?

So today I've done nothing but read about washing machines and dryers. I think I've decided to get the last Miele W4842 in the tri-state area [chocolate brown - that probably explains it] and decide on the dryer later. I have a basement laundry room already; I'm renovating my living space and trying to make the laundry more convenient.

I wish you all good luck on the test run tonight :-)

Robyn,

As far as I remember, the W48xx did not come in color. They were white machines only. The 48xx is also a different class of machine than the units Eduring has. The W19xx are great machines. They should cost under $200. At a $1000, buy the new W1 which starts at $1600 I believe.

Good luck!

Thank you, @homepro01 - I think the chocolate brown color was a promotion? It's a full size model which I think have been discontinued in the US. I'll learn more tomorrow. I could wait for the W1 but I was a bit uncertain about the soap dispensers ....

Robyn,

It would be interesting to see a picture of the washer. Miele only ever made it in White. They did not make the W4842 in stainless even. I would get the W1 instead of the used W4842. It was an ok machine and but had some reliability problems. A few members on the forums owned them. You may want to search for some threads on this forum about it. At $100, yes, get it but $1000, get the W1. The W1 is a nice looking machine and a i got touch a feel one at the Princeton location. It is bigger than the W3048 series.

Good luck!

the 4842 is new; sorry I wasn't clear -- drimmers in nyc has it for sale. But I can wait for the W1. (Still on the hunt for a vented dryer though!

4842 went out of production some time ago iirc.

@enduring - it did, this was the last model in stock (I thought I would want the additional capacity?) but after reading the board as @homepro recommended, I've decided to get the 3048. Not sure I want to wait until April for W1 and I am definitely not ready to yield control over detergent :-) [The W1 controls that, yes?]

*if* the contractor can install a fan to remove excess heat from the laundry closet I will add the T1. Otherwise, a vented GE.

You have been lovely about letting me hijack your thread. Everybody here is lovely! Thank you.

The W1 does not control detergents. Where are you located Robyn? You may want to call the Miele experience center to see if they have the W1 on display. There are three models for the W1. I really liked the machine and I am speaking as someone who has three Mieles: W1926, W1215 and W3033 series machines.

The new heat pumper dryer is so quiet it is crazy. It did not appear to put out a lot of heat but we were in a large open room. I would install a fan to assist with the heat but it should not be a problem.

Good luck!

@homepro - I'm in Lancaster, PA. Several hours from Miele experience centers (NYC, Princeton, VA).

So now I'm seriously confused! The W1 says it uses detergent cartridges and capsules and the washer dispenses the optimal amount. Are those optional? Can I use powders?

Feel free to dm me, I don't want to thread jack!

p.s. 3 Mieles?!?!

Robyn,

Yes, 3 miele washers and 2 dryers. Don't ask. On the hunt for a condensation dryer.

Take the drive to Princeton or catch the Amtrak:-) There are three models for the W1. The soap dispenser is still there like other machines but there is also the Twinduos for automatic soap dispensing. There is a thread on the forum - thread linked here with more information about them. The dryer is so quiet it is crazy! If it was not a slightly larger form factor than my W1926 and W3033 series machines, I would have ordered one already. Alas, it would not be able to be stacked with my current setup.

@homepro - that thread! Thank you, I will read through it.

So here's another question: Guy is selling a 'lightly used' W1966 + T1403. Shipping struts are mounted to the back of the washer. What's a fair price? [and what else do I need to know?]

Robyn

Please look at this video explaining the 3 different washers and 2 dryers that Miele will be releasing

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjwb58rtyaM

This will give you information about the differece tween the machines

The optional stack kit works great, for your pairing, though the dryer is very light and seems like it could go anywhere, as long as the intake is not blocked. .......and not to forget, the quality is amazing. First repair visit in 18 years, today! The bushings were worn out. Maybe worth a preventive maintenance, from Miele, depending on the age of the pair. They verified the springs and other parts to learn that it is in top shape. Keep it clean!

Update:

I have expanded and got a new laundry sink, yet to be installed. Electrician installed extra outlets. Now my sink is to be installed. I’m having my DH work up some sort of bracing to attach to the he clay block wall, through the concrete joints, and make a sort of wall with shelf on top, and access to shut off valve and outlets (protected from the water). The wall will be support for mounting the backsplash on the sink to the wall for stability.

New sign was a gift from DS2 & his girlfriend. Bailing twine to hang.

Wow now I am yellous. How nice it looks and great for getting through alot of laundry quickly.

I had som trouble with my dryer and had to take it apart, took forever to dry a load of towles and after 2 hours it still said 1,45 h on the display. With the help of my neibour we took it apart(he has done it before with his dryer, the same model as your condenser).

We found nothing but alot of dust and the 2 weels the drum runs on in the from had left residue on the drum so it sounded like dadonk dadonk dadonk as the drum went around but after a good vaccuming and scrapeing of rubber it runs so much better and hopefully it will run for another 10 years of trouble free service.

You ok, here it has been a week af alot of snow and cold cold, the coldes in 7 years. Almost snowed in but 4x4 and a snowblower we are fine.

Wow, looks really cool!!! Enjoy it in good health!!!

Linus, thanks! The dryers are vented, not condensing dryers. I still need to get the venting set up to the outside, lol, so not doing a lot of laundry yet. If I need to work on either of these models I am going to recruit you to help me :)

thanks pcpr, it’s been fun setting them up.