I’ve ordered the Cole Haan sneaks and the Superga! Wish me a good fit in one or the other. I’m going to give the Rothy’s one more shot. I want so badly to wear them. (Did the same with Tory Burch Miller sandals, before I had to give up and admit to myself that they were never going to fit me. )

Try the round toe :)

So funny about Allbirds. One of my boys talked me into buying a pair a few weeks ago- I'm sold. It's true what they say- size up. I'm a big Superga fan, and have been wearing them for 15+ years; I love the look, but find the comfort level just so-so.

bbstx -- since you asked -- I know this is off-topic, so apologies to everyone else.

if you dress in upscale skinny jeans/skinny black pants, with scarf, smart jacket/sweater and such, then white sneakers, in a stylish profile, won't be an issue for sightseeing in Paris, going to the market and the fromagerie/boulangerie/wine shops to gather a picnic. You can wear them in the museums and parks.

But, I wouldn't wear them in any restaurant for dinner.

Lunch -- maybe. It depends on the neighborhood and whether it's trendy. For an "old school" Paris restaurant -- definitely not.

I don't eat in "tourist" places, because there are a lot of really bad restaurants in Paris. I'm very selective about where I choose to spend my Euros!

I know several food critics in Paris. Be sure to look at the recommendations (and I highly recommend a food tour) with Paris By Mouth. If you go on one of their tours, you will learn so much about how to shop for really good foods and wines. One of my dear expat friends writes Paris Missives, and when I'm in the city, we always try a new place so he can blog about it. During my 2017 June trip, I was with him forthis one.

If you're going to anywhere in Europe, I highly recommend visiting the Slow Europe Forum to ask questions and read tips. We used to be "Slow Travel" but that site was bought out. One of my friends owns this one, so participation isn't what it used to be as most of us feel we're spent 15 years answering questions! I've met over 80 Slow Travelers and now, several of us coordinate our trips so that we're in the same place at the same time. On the forums, I'm "Cameron."

Dhygarden, thanks for the tips! Although I referenced Paris, we are going to Italy on this trip. I assume your very good advice would apply there too. Nevertheless, I can’t wait to find time to peruse all the blog links!

I’ve found as I’ve traveled, that changing from trainers/sneakers/etc to a cute pair of flats and adding a bit of dressy jewelry is often all that is needed to make an outfit presentable for dinner in a nice (not elegant) restaurant.

I’m struggling to not look like a hot mess, while keeping to one carry-on and a small backpack. That is why the “holy grail” has become lightweight shoes, sweaters that will wash and dry quickly, and outfits that are versatile. btw, anyone here a fan of The Vivienne Files? I’m not very good at mix and match, but I’m getting fantastic inspiration from The Vivienne Files.

bbstx -- where/when in Italy? I'll be in the Italy (after a week in Paris) Udine/ Fruili Region and Venice in late May. I'll be back for Sicily and Rome in September.

Dyh, we may be overlapping! Send me a private message, please. I can’t seem to send you one.

The new pair of Rothy’s came in. One shoe does not have the feeling of something under the heel and one does! There is no phone number to call them, but they are very responsive to emails. Perhaps I’ll email and ask them to call me. I can’t keep ordering and sending back until I get two good ones!

Personally I have never worn sneakers of any sort in Europe, preferring black walking sandals or flats. Europeans tend to dress better than Americans.

bbstx -- I can't seem to compose a message either. Sorry.

Neither of you have messaging enabled. Go to Your Houzz in the right hand corner, edit profile, advanced settings, and scroll to the bottom of that page and select "allow anyone to message me" from the drop-down box.

I think I fixed it. I’m now “following” you, dhygarden, whatever that means (sounds kinda creepy). Nevertheless, you should be able to message me now. I still cannot message you.

The Superga in my usual size slipped up and down on my heel, even with an orthotic insert.

The Cole Haan reminded me of the orthopedic shoes worn by elderly ladies like these

Bonnie_ann, glad you’ve found some sandals you like. I don’t wear sandals in cities. Kinda skeeves me out. But then, I’m easily skeeved.

May, thanks! Your post and mine passed in the ether.

Before returning the most recent pair of Rothys, I decided to try them without socks. I will never ever wear them with socks, so I don't know why I tried them on while wearing socks. Without the socks, they are fine. I've worn them around the house for a couple of hours with no issues at all.

They are flat, but that is not a problem for me. I don't think I'll be wearing them for sightseeing. They are going to be more for dressing for dinner.

Glad you tried them again. I'm still waiting for some new inventory to give them a try.

They say they’ve got new inventory. But truly, I couldn’t tell the difference between the old and the new.

Wore the Rothy flats out and about today. I was pleased. When to a charity fund-raiser luncheon and had to walk quite a ways through the parking lot. No problems at all.

I’ve been wearing the Rothys with regularity. They are so comfortable, they’ve turned into my go-to shoe! I’ve just ordered the petal pink!

I love the pink and was inspired to order a pair. Alas, no pink in my size.

Gigi, I had to have them notify me when they had them back in stock. If you will click on your size even though it is grayed out, "add to bag" will change to "notify me via email."

Those are pretty. I especially like the pink in the pointed toe. So pretty and simple. I still haven't ordered a pair, though I have decided it will definitely be a round toe. With this discussion in mind, and not remembering the last time I had a pointed toe, I tried on some pointed toe flats at Nordstom's Rack a couple days ago. I don't know if they were more comical or more threatening. I guess they'd be the shoe to wear if I was running latte because they'd definitely get there before the rest of me. LOL Scale matters. But I love your pink ones.

Before you buy from Rothy’s, google for a code. There are usually $20 off codes floating around the internet.

Thanks for the reminder. I had forgotten about that.

This code just worked. FRIEND-To1sKV

I'm ordering a pair in a half size up, pointed. I'll remove the insole to add one with an arch support.

Too funny. Just met friends for lunch, and one was wearing the leopard Rothy's. She loves them but says they are not comfy for a lot of walking. Personally, i find totally flat shoes are hard to walk in.

Dyhgatden, do you have information that led you to ordering a half size larger Rothy? Just wondering if I should do the same?

gigi, Rothy's has free shipping both ways. For my first order, I ordered 2 sizes to see which fit better. You might consider ordering your usual size and a half size up.

Gigi -- I ordered a half size up due to the pointed toe and the fact that I'll use different insoles. I don't have a wide foot, but I've had two broken toes, so I need a bit of wiggle room in a pointed toe shoe.

I just got two pair of Rothy's. I think I will have to put an arch support in these, The taupe heather look nice and feel good on with that one exception. The leopard seem a little short in the toe box and a little snug there. I want to like them, but they may go back. Do they stretch out?

I don’t think they stretch out or if they do it is the tiniest amount - not enough for me to notice. I do think there may sometimes be a difference between shoes of a similar pattern. I sent back the first pair I got because something did not feel right. No problems with the second pair.

My pink Rothy’s arrived yesterday. They are going back. The pink has a lavender undertone that I don’t particularly care for. I think I’ll do something totally boring - like order navy for the next pair.

Bbstx, I’m sorry to hear that you don’t care for the pink ones. I was looking forward to receiving mine. Now I’m already looking for a backup color!

Gigi, you may like them. There is nothing wrong with them. I was just hoping for a clearer pink.

Sorry they didn't work out. They look great in the photo, but I would probably like a clearer pink too. I have the Tieks in Ballerina Pink -- it could be a touch pinker, but I have read that the recommended polish may darken them a tad. OK with me.

I think the leopard Rothy's are going back. It feels like the sole hits under my big toe and they are definitely tighter than the taupe pair. The taupe pair would be loose if they were any larger and the leopard were uncomfortable when I sat with them on for a while. I might try another pair. After that, they don't have any more choices for me (2 reds, but I do not need red shoes). I'd get the emerald or a couple of others, but it appears they only make a few colors of the round toe up to a 12.

lascatx, get them to send you another pair of the leopard. I have had to make myself stop wearing mine. I wear them so much, I’m afraid I’m going to wear them out before our vacation! They go with nearly everything.

BTW -- I was in Nordstrom the other day and saw that Tory Burch has the 'Minnie' Travel Ballet Flat, similar to Tieks. They fold.

https://shop.nordstrom.com/s/tory-burch-minnie-travel-ballet-flat-women/3979217?origin=topnav&cm_sp=Top%20Navigation--Women--Flats&offset=1&top=72&flexi=60135656_60135657

dhygarden, those are cute! I especially like the “pink magnolia” color. Looks like it could be a great neutral. Did you try them on? Were they comfortable? When ballet flats first came back into style, I bought a pair with the elastic in the back. They were so uncomfortable, I ended up throwing them away. Since then, I’ve shied away from shoes with elastic across the back.

Up thread, I also posted about sneakers. I was looking for something sort of old school Arthur Ashe. At one point there were 11 pair of sneakers piled on the DR table! I’ve finally found The One!

I didn't try them on because the insoles cannot be removed to switch out...and there is no arch support.

They're very cute and soft. I'm not sure about liking the big advertising logo on the toe.

dhygarden, try to email me about Venice. I’ve changed my settings

@bbstx -- you should have a message from me now.

Those look nice, dyhgaden.

Bbstx, dod you order a pair of the loafers? I got a second pair of the leopard and am still on the fence about them. I ordered those the same day the loafer was released and ordered the black loafer. Love the way they look on, but one shoe is looser and it's just a bit too loose when I'm walking in them. I'm having them send me a second pair. I think I need to then decide which one is my favorite and try wearing them all day. The soles are so thin that I am concerned about whether they will be comfortable on your feet all day kind of shoes.

dyhgarden, those look very versatile. The metallic almost looks raised. Is it?

I have not ordered the loafers. I'm very much on the fence about them. If I decide to spring for a pair, it will be in the Fall. Of all of the colors offered, I liked the leopard best, but I think one pair of leopard shoes in my closet is sufficient.

I wear my Rothy's all day. In fact, I'm going to have to give them a rest. I'm afraid I'm going to wear them out before vacation! Last week, I wore them to a baseball game, to the grocery, and during an entire day of running errands out of town. There is no doubt, the shoes are flat, but I guess I'm lucky. That doesn't bother me.

As to the difference in shoes within a pair, I think Rothy really needs to step up their quality control. I don't understand why there are problems. These are being knit by machine, not in a room full of little old ladies knitting and purling!

I would like to wash mine before vacation, but I've read on other forums that they shrink when washed. The fit is perfect now. I would really hate to mess it up. I'm puzzled why they would shrink. Everything about them is plastic! I've never had a water bottle shrink. :-)

I suspect washing realigns the fibers in the knit and puts them back to original shape more than shrinkage -- unless they are going too hot. Heat can seriously shrink or stretch out plastic. You said yours gave but you didn't think they really stretched much. I would not think you would have a problem, but I would not wash in hot water or even very warm. The plastic is not porous and doesn't need hot water to sanitize it.

I felt the same way about the loafers, but I can wear black shoes a lot and I got an email saying today only. I guess that was just a one day preview if you were on the mailing list? Cuz they are still there. Anyway, I like them very much. I have suede smoking flats, but could wear these in weather where the suede would not work. And the black fabric is dark and rich in color -- looks dressier. Really flattering. My husband said they were his favorite, and he likes the taupe. I need to see when my 30 days is up. LOL One pair has to make the outdoor and running around test. May happen today. We are planning on going to an art festival and that front coming through has everything king of drippy in front of it. It is supposed to get colder while we are out, but not into the 40s until tonight. I hope I like them as much as you do.

The metallic can be felt because it's different material, but it's not like embellishment with sewn on beads. I have so many solid black shoes, that I thought these looked like fun, but will still work with the clothes I take.

bbstx -- I'm finding the Rothy's comfortable without insoles, when compared to other flats without comfort insoles. I could see wearing these without adding my inserts, but I wouldn't want to walk on sidewalks for miles.

I know this conversation has been going on for 5 months now, but I am now up to 25 pairs of Rothy's. It took quite a bit of trial and error to find the right size, but now that I have, I wear them about 90% of the time (not to the gym, beach, etc). If anyone still has questions or needs a first purchase discount code, https://www.talkable.com/x/qYmywK , I'm definitely happy to help. I am in no way affiliated with Rothys, now do I know anyone affiliated. Bet my husband wishes I did though.

where can I buy pre owned pointed toe Rothys size 10 Much to expensive any suggestions

There is at least one Facebook page where people sell Rothy’s. There may be a second one. I’m not sure. You could also try eBay, Poshmark, and Mercari. However, I would buy my first pair from the company so that you have the ability to order a variety of sizes and return those that don’t fit.

I was expecting this to have gotten bumped up because of the new colors or styles. I still have just my 2 pair. I have found that they are not as good for me in the heat of the summer but when the wether cools down just a bit, they fit and wear great. I have been thinking about a pair of the sneakers and now they came out with the embroidered designs. Thinking about it. Nordstrom had a couple of exclusive designs, but they are nearly sold out.

My sparkled black pointed Rothy's were just the thing for a festive party at my art museum. I wore velvet slacks and a silk blouse. I was comfortable on my feet for standing at tall tables for the appetizers and browsing the galleries.