Leaf Gitter 2000
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Is WS2000 red or pink?
Comments (33)I certainly The blue-ing towards purple of the dark red Austins as a great quality. Strange but it is considered a bad trait in Hybrid teas. This blue-ing or even deepening of the dark red to almost regal purple is really beautiful in OGRs and Austins. It makes them blend in so well together with OGR where a bright red would be to LOUD. francie12 is right LDB does meet the coolor wish of the original poster mauirose. It is a red rose that darkens to sometimes even a dark blackish red. They have a good scent in quality, but very few who have have noses for roses will state that this rose is "so dangerously well scented that grown men drown". And I have never seen a well grown LDB, it is stingy with blooms. In the public park in the city they planted big beds of Austins (LDB, Fallstaff, and WS 2000) it does not take a rose expert to see which rose produces most flowers ... WS 200 wins. All the LDBs I have seen seen produces 5-10 roses in each "flush" LOL.....That is if they do not turn into one cane wonders over the years. It is one of the few roses you plant as with 3 canes when it comes as bare root plant and the number of canes will actually decrease as the years go by... So I would love to see a picture of a well grown specimen of LDB. It will be a first! I saw Darcey Bussel on the rose fields. I do not like the scent of it and then it will never be planted in my garden. But it does produces a dark red/purple mass of flowers for those who like such a rose. It really is early to early to write a review of Munstead Wood since I have only had container grown plant since may. But it does look promising. It has shot new basals and are 2 feet tall which is a great improvement over Tradescant who in my climate rarely gets more than a feet tall. And it begins shooting new laterals before the flowers at the end of the canes have are done blooming. It is sort of a mix between Tradescant and WS 2000. The flowers are refined and have a wonderful scent similar to WS 2000. But they are not very large. So I can´t say something bad about Munstead Wood Ceterum ... not yet. IMO WS 2000 is still the best Red/purple Austin ever. Carol your RR is really well grown ...I am so envious! Well done. Mauirose. I would go for WS 2000 if it has to an be Austin, especially If you also want to grow it no spray. Watered and fed well in your climate most roses will become what we refer to as low climbers anyway. I have even as I wrote seen Tradescant grown as low climber in California. But the flowers are much darker than WS 2000....See Moreis this normal William Shakespeare 2000 growth?
Comments (23)>Are you certain it was sawflies? The larva eat leaves instead of canes, and the damage appears as skeletonized leaves instead of chew marks on canes. Mature sawflies are very tiny wasps, and I don't believe wasps attack rose foliage. Hi Laura, Sort of certain??? :) That was a best guess based on the medium-sized green larvae I saw everywhere and that were causing much rose damage here in 2009. This was damage that someone who is an expert at the Beales' forum (an employee at the Beales' nursery) suggested looked like sawfly damage. My own guess was also based on looking up sawflies in some rose books. I don't think that I'd read anywhere that sawfly larvae won't attack canes, so that's the way I've been thinking of it for some time now. Last year we had a ton of chew marks on canes, as well as a ton of blackened stems, which I thought I'd read was canker caused by the sawflies laying eggs in the canes, either through openings they create by chewing into the canes or by taking advantage of the exposed cut ends of canes. This happened in an area where the rabbits has no access, so it was some insect that was causing the problem. I don't think I've seen any of those chewed cane areas or blackened stems this year. I'm not going to research all that again now, but if you're certain that sawfly larvae can't do any cane chewing, it's a puzzle that for sure I saw the very same kind of larva insect, whatever it's correct name, chewing on a cane--in the active act of cutting into a cane on one rose plant where it left the entire top of the cane hanging down toward the ground, hanging on by the barest of threads. I remember seeing it as it did that work, and then intending to go into the house to get some stuff to use on the rose... and got busy right away with something once back in the house. By the time I got back out with my gardening stuff, the rose's cane had already been severed! I suppose the damage could have been caused by some other kind of green larva that looks just like the sawfly larvae that were covering the rose the Beales' expert commented on? (He saw the damage, not the actual larvae. After his comment, I looked closer and saw the same kind of green larvae, and also enlarged digital photos to see them all over the rose.) I am certain that these larvae--whatever the proper name that identifies them--do cut into rose stems, though I don't have a good way of knowing that the larvae I've observed are actually the same insect that can be identified easily as sawflies when they reach adult maturity. I have also seen the flying mature sawflies (I'm certain of that, because I recognized the pictures posted online and in books), but mostly I have seen a green insect larvae--seen them climbing on canes everywhere and all over the undersides of leaves too. We do also have caterpillers, but they are much larger than the green larvae I'm referring to, and they have noticeable feet. If the larva that cuts stems off/eats leaves also has some feet, they are nothing very noticeable, because I never noticed any. We had a problem with caterpillers and grasshoppers this year, but last year it was sawflies and Japanese beetles. I consulted a good many rose and gardening books here last year in researching the problem, and what I kept reading seemed to confirm that sawfly diagnosis of what it was, so I'm really surprised now to find that all that is wrong. What would you guess the green cane/leaf eating larvae here are? If you're right, whatever those larvae were, that might explain the lack of a worry this year with those same kinds of larvae. That is, perhaps spraying the yard with the nematodes that can handle many chewing insects--but are ineffective against sawflies--helped this year with what was otherwise a huge problem last year? Thanks for your information, Laura! Best wishes, Mary P.S. I forgot to say, last year we had a problem with plain eaten leaves and with skeletonized eaten leaves, both. This year it's just plainly eaten leaves, which the caterpillers are plenty good at producing. I may have seen some skeletonized leaves this year, but offhand, can't recall any....See MoreRingo 2000
Comments (1)I grew ringo a couple of years ago and they did germinate pretty uneven. Pick out the ones that came up and put the others on a heat mat or heat vent (covered). It helps if you store your seed in a refrigerator for about a month before you plant them too. Don't know why. I wasn't wild about Ringo growth either....See MoreWanted- William Shakespeare 2000 rooted
Comments (7)Bamabutterfly, I'm sorry but, my Roses here in New Jersey have just barely started to leaf out so cuttings aren't yet avalable. It would be quite awhile. Although that Maggie Rose and those Iris's sound great, I presently don't have anymore room for another Rose other than the 2 William 2000's that I need. Also, I started with 2 patches of Iris's and now have 6. I'm pretty much Irised out over here. Try the regular Plant Exchange, I'm sure you'll find a few takers. Thanks anyhow, Dan...See Moremercurygirl
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