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Brainstorming ideas for Kitchen Reno in Vineyard

Sea Ranch Abalone Bay

6 years ago

Looking for ideas, recommendations to update the kitchen of our forever home.

Before project photos found here.

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Patricia Colwell Consulting

6 years ago

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So what i see at first glance is you do not have space for an island a really good counter depth fridge would be my first purchase with the budget that will probably eat 1/3 I would get new counters and have that seating bar lowered to be the same height as the rest of the counters and remove the microwave and install a proper hood and some nice pendants over the peninsula

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Sea Ranch Abalone Bay
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6 years ago
Where would the microwave go?
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I grew up in a 1950's 3 bedroom, (one story) ranch that was 1250-1300 sq ft. We had a full hall bath and a half bath attached to the master. Of course both were tiny by today's standards. I currently live in a 1947 ranch that's just under 1900 sq ft and has the same bath arrangement. Everything is just larger in this house and there's a den/fourth closetless bedroom. I think for resale, you can almost never go wrong with a bath. Even if it was purchased for one person, having a 'public' bath and a private bath is preferred to having guests invade your personal bathroom. (However in both homes, my bathroom was and is the hall bath.) Where it would make sense in your home and what other room/function would have to give up space is a tougher question. Do you have any ideas? A floorplan of what's existing and what's proposed would help. I think you're saying that you'll end up with a 12x35 space for kitchen/dining/living, but I'm not sure. I'll stay out of finishes. (I got distracted looking at google maps/zillow for the house I grew up in.)
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Are there zoning concerns about where you can add on? The housing stock/market in all areas is different, but we live in a 2200 sq ft townhouse, and two blocks away there are 4000 square foot homes for over a million, but it would not make sense to make our 2200 sq ft home a 4000 sq ft home; if we wanted 4000 sq ft it would be much cheaper to buy 4000 sq ft. So as part of our kitchen renovation we are both trying to achieve a modern functional kitchen, while also recognizing that part of the value of our house is being below the median price for our zip code. We are enclosing a covered porch and incorporating it in our kitchen. This is cheaper than new construction because it will use the existing footings and roof. However, that does not make it cheap. I would probably recommend some evaluation by an architect/contract/structural engineer regarding the current sunroom. Maybe you have already had this done and this is what you mean by "not a proper foundation". If you have to tear down the sunroom, does it make sense in terms of your lot to build on the side or the back? You could potentially build on the side and include a master bath as part of a side addition. I know that back additions are more common but i have also seen side additions that look nice and flow well if that works with the lot.
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I don't usually tell people to get professional help, but looking at your post, I don't think you have the basis for a do it yourself design. I am renovating my kitchen. and pantry/laundry room. The first thing I needed to do was assess the space I had and determine what I liked and disliked about my space. You need to do the same thing. Do you have sufficient counter space for the cooking that you do? How much extra do you need and where. Do you have sufficient upper and lower cabinet space? How much more space do you need? Do you have sufficient food storage space? (Refrigerator/Freezer/dry goods) How much more do you need. What things do you love about your current kitchen, what drives you crazy? ( I hate that you can see my sink from the front door. I hate that you can't open the pantry doors if you have a basket of laundry on the floor. I hate that you see the front of my refrigerator from the dining room, I love the peninula between my kitchen and dining area. I love the work triangle spacing of my kitchen.) Do you have a budget? Do you have a realistic idea of what you can do vs. what you have to hire someone else to do? Does your renovation budget match your plan? Once you have nailed down exactly what you want and need and matched the list to your budget you are not ready to plan the renovation. A good designer can help you figure out what you can do with the space and the best layout to optimize functionality of the space.
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@David Long We have 8' ceilings; our uppers are 42" tall (including crown) and 30" wide. In terms of tips... are you doing inset cabs? If so you might ask about "ganging" some of the cabs together. I didn't think about how each cab carcass would butt up against another cab carcass, creating a double-wide gap between drawers/doors. If doing inset, also keep in mind how much interior storage you will lose: e.g. the narrow pantry to the right of the refrigerator is nominally 12" wide, but the interior clear storage width is only 7". Re Sub Zero, I ordered appliances in early 2022, months before construction started, because of the known supply chain problems. There's a thread on here about Sub Zero wait times; not sure what they are today but we waited 15 months to receive ours. Even then, it was missing one of the door components (dairy shelf) and we will be waiting until "early fall" to get it. Only other thing I'd highlight about the Sub Zero is to be sure you understand what the final look will be - earlier in this thread I noted the 1" gap of the Classic model which is not what I expected. IIRC I think Sub Zero distinguishes between "built in" and "integrated."
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6 years ago
Hire a Pro.
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Sea Ranch Abalone Bay
Original Author
6 years ago
Absolutely will hire a pro. Objective here is to visualize possibilities.
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Patricia Colwell Consulting
6 years ago
Under the cabinets to the left of the window.
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Sea Ranch Abalone Bay
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6 years ago
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@Patricia Colwell Consulting...and lowered microwave allows for both visibility and accessibility.
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6 years ago
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Have you posted your thread into the Kitchen forum as well? I’d start there first. Those folks truly know their stuff. .Add a wish list of what you would like to see, a drawing of the layout with some measurements, even if they’re just approximate. I wouldn’t say you don’t have room for an island just yet, depending on what you have on the other side of that wall the refridgerator is on, you may be able to replace the wall with a beam and open the space up. Again, a drawing of the floorplan would be helpful.
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Sea Ranch Abalone Bay
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6 years ago
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Tah Dah- Floor plan for first floor... (furniture placement in family room needs tweaking- Storage room is actually laundry & Pantry -learning to use new app)
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6 years ago
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Is that brown thing in the dining room the fireplace? If not what exactly is that? a table maybe? And I can’t tell what that area is that backs the stove. Can you elaborate? I have a real outside the box idea, I just won’t know if its even worth mentioning until you clarify if those things are structural in nature and need to stay or not. Also, if that’s not the fire place in the dining room, where exactly is it located? In the family room where you have the tv?
jakabedy
6 years ago
I’m envisioning the kitchen spreading out into the area currently occupied by the dining room. Then the living room becomes the dining room (unless you really use the living room). Not sure that can happen with the planned budget, but I think it would work.
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6 years ago
That’s what I was thinking too Jaka.
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Sea Ranch Abalone Bay
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6 years ago
I just saw this... after I came to the same thought jakabedy
But the challenge will be Husband who wants to convert living room into "playroom" with pool table (to be purchased) and his chess table.
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Sea Ranch Abalone Bay
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6 years ago
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lukkiirish The blob in the dining room represents a buffet/serving table

We are now anticipating a budget of 40K- but we won't know for sure before January.

We were considering putting our 2 rounded curio cabinets on either side of window rather than the brown blob/buffet.

Behind the stove is a wet bar in the living room- our next update project.

In the entryway hallway is a tiny powder room that butts up behind the sink of the bar.

Fireplace is in the family room (click to see) which we plan to change out for stand alone in corner by windows - and doing something creative with the niche/bookcase/fireplace area- another project down the road.

Their buffet is turned diagonally- entry into kitchen shown

Wet bar behind kitchen (updating this will be next project):

Husband wants pool table where sofa/coffee table are (placed at diagonal for more playing space?) and chess table where side table

This is the dining room furniture we plan to bring:

2 curios do fit on either side of picture (what would be the window in new house)

2 rounded curios

Linen chest:

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