Help with Beverage Center - Liebherr, Sub Zero, Perlick or Electrolux?
mbbrown3
6 years ago
Need help deciding on a quality, quiet 24" Beverage center for this space, that can maintain cold temperatures for beer and soda.
First question, should I order a right hinge or left hinge?
Second, I am comparing the following units and wanting feedback from anyone that has experience with any of the
Any other beverage centers I should also consider? I have weeded through the forums and these seem to get good overall comments so any additional info I would appreciate.
Also, if anyone has the RU510, why does the kickplate look unfinished on the sides of the kickplate?
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mbbrown3
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoRelated Discussions
Why a Sub-Zero?
Comments (39)Well, you didn't spoil the party with that info, Andre. Except for SZ's Wine Fridge (Perlick)---I think that's SZ's, it is hard to find any info, especially from SZ, about their use of a variable speed compressor. Doing searches for same , along with looking at the link you gave, I was able to track down some posts, (Mainly on Refrigration repair sites), where it does appear that the newer SZ's are indeed using the newer VSC technology. Good to see that they are only 5 years or so behind Jenn-air, alto both companies need to do a better job listing the features of their fridges, especially the technical ones. This compressor is what allowed the JA to claim .5 Degree accuracy and I'm sure SZ will follow with a similar claim. If you have any doubts as to the value of such a compressor system, just Google "Perlick Wine Fridge". It does make ya wonder why Liebherr does a much better job of explaining Technical advantages of their fridges than do their American Competitors. Hmmmmmm are Euros more technically inclined than us "Yanks"---In the US, Fridge Makers can just say "It keeps food fresher longer" or this or that "Latest Sales Slogan" and we Yanks BUY without having the foggiest notion of what it does and even much less at how it does it! As I mentioned before, be careful, Not all Jenn-air or SZ's use that compressor yet (At least I can't document it) so "One Hopes" you will have a saleman that knows what a VSC is. Gary...See MoreFagor undercounter beverage center? Others?
Comments (4)Careful - this company is in bankruptcy and is facing liquidation unless one of a few buyout offers goes through. It's a Spanish company that is owned by the Mondragon co-op and was the fifth largest European appliance manufacturer. I bought one of their wonderful ovens with the side-hinged door last year that is nicely made, but I don't know if I'd buy from them now until or unless their financial situation gets settled....See MoreTo Buy or Not to Buy Sub-Zero
Comments (66)Wow! Happy 75th and happy golden anniversary! I hope I last that long! I'm sure he'll match the panels and your wife's kitchen will be restored just in time to celebrate. Ive thought all of those things you mention about that roll out shelf. It's heavy duty, so it held something heavy. I can't imagine a Kitchenaid mixer there - it's right at the entrance to the living room and diagonal from the double ovens. I put my Kitchenaid clear across the room by the pantry and ovens (tray storage above ovens). The living room had an actual bar (it's been removed but was on the original plans and I removed the upper cabinet from the laundry room wall - kept bumping my head on it and don't need glassware storage upstairs). I agree, it's custom and I can't figure it out. We have a fire sprinkler system in the garage only (because, save the cars, of course). The house is quirky to say the least. As for baby proofing, well, we literally live on a cliff, so there's that. The house is currently raising its 3rd set of kids, so I suppose mine will survive just fine too. Just don't look down when the house is taking 80 mile per hour winds. Fortunately, the foundations are set 30 feet into bedrock. The cool thing is when the fog creeps in. The house looks like it's floating in the clouds. It's like a lair - complete with a pirate deck off the master. It's hard to be a grownup here sometimes.........See MoreThermador vs SubZero/Wolf appliances?
Comments (48)"In regards to the screenshot you put to kalapointers post, she states she's been dealing with repairs for 7 years, but the M Series ovens were only released 4 years years ago. So not sure whats up " Kalapointer's post answers M111675's question, "Do you think it's still a problem on the Wolf M Professional convection oven? I understand it may be easier to fix, but does the problem still occur? " In Kalapointer's oven saga, it was at some point replaced with an M which they report here has chipped. "Well, I have waited since February 8th to have my M Pro double oven repaired. The enamel on the bottom of the oven was chipping and crazing." " Should an oven be able to handle self-cleaning mode, yes. But I can tell you from my experience many people have problems with their units after they've run self-cleaning mode (and this is across the board for modern brands), likely due to all the new microchips and electronics we use in modern ovens these days." Whether it is electronics or the blue enamel, if it doesn't work, don't promote it as a benefit and take it off until you get something that does work. "Coincidentally enough, I've never had a customer that experienced this chipping issue on Wolf ovens and I do sell quite a few. So I've not seen how it might arise yet the the real world. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened to these customers." No one knows how many have this problem except Wolf. From this forum, we know it has been ongoing for 10 years and some posters have had as many as 3 go bad not to mention one of the lawsuits mentioned a multiplicity of failures for one family. They were also talked into spending more money with Wolf to upgrade with the idea it would not occur and it still chipped. That has happened on this forum too. I feel if Wolf was sincere and it was truly a rare occurrence, they would upgrade the appliance at no additional cost for the inconvenience it causes and in at least one case someone cut their hand on the shards. It is also not just a cosmetic issue as they try to say. Rita" Seriously, who cares what color the interior of an oven is? " This^^^^^^^...See Morembbrown3
6 years ago
DrB477
6 years agoDrB477
6 years ago
There was a wine rack included which we don't use. There was also a half width shelf that we removed.
DrB477
6 years ago
Kim G
6 years agoHere are some pics. The light can be set to stay on or turn on when fridge is opened and turn off after close. I selected Liebherr due to price and positive reviews particularly on the quiet nature of the fridge. I did purchase it right after they rolled out their new model which added the long handle (big improvement per the reviews) and they re-designed the interior. I had a hard time paying over $2K for a beverage fridge. We also bought their outdoor fridge (standard stainless vent grill/kick plate on that one) and have been very happy. You just need to get a kick plate made that accepts their vent grill.
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