Is this old sourdough starter is still good to use?
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Comments (20)I'm glad I posted this -- I'm learning all sorts of things! I didn't realize that sourdough isn't necessarily sour -- but it makes sense the commerical stuff is more so. (I had a friend's homemade sourdough recently, and while it was a very nice bread I remember thinking it wasn't nearly sour enough!) The sour taste is really what I'm going for -- if I can't get that going naturally, I'll looking into adding the taste in with other things. (I picked up a littl container of buttermilk powder for another recipe -- that might be a good taste to play around with!) Thanks for the explanation on acidity and the viscosity of the starter, Carol; that's helps a lot. The alchemy of baking has always intimidated me -- it's good to have a clearer idea of what's going on. I'll keep plugging away for a while longer with this starter, perhaps feed it whole wheat for a while and see if that builds up it's puny flour-lifting muscles. If not, the soured yeast dough may be the way to go, jessica; I didn't know you could do that. It might actually be better way to go, given the infrequency with which I bake. I'm still going to work with this starter -- Ill keep you posted!...See MoreThings to Make with Sourdough Starter Deux
Comments (150)I almost didn't read that Kitchen thread, but I decided to open it last night out of curiosity. I loved it!. Anyone who is following along and hasn't read about the new toaster instructions needs to go take a look at the link above. Glad you got to see the photo this time. I have to be honest and say I'd never heard of stroopwafels before I went to Holland or I would have searched them out. I'd never eaten one when I decided I had to try making them. I don't know how authentic the taste is, but I know they aren't the "authentic" look, but after seeing the ones with the grid and so thin (so commercial looking -- ya know? ), I, personally, like the ones made with the pizzelle iron. Somehow the stroopwafels came up in a conversation between this attorney and DH (her husband is a great cook, and they wind up talking food and kitchens sometimes). She had had stroowafels in Holland and loved them and DH told her I made them sometimes. It was a couple of months later that she arranged her schedule to be here for meetings on another case so she could see our son in his high school musical (she's a former actress). That was a pretty special effort, so I decided to match the kindness (and make DH proud) with a bag of stroopwafels for her. She was the first person I knew who'd had them in Holland ad had mine and she loved mine, so I was happy. LOL They do keep pretty well, so they would be great in a gift basket -- and most people have never had them. I've seen one commercial brand sandwiched with dark chocolate and want to try that for my oldest son. If you decide to try them, let me know. I use an adaptation of two recipes and will share that with you. If you want to find your own, the cookie has many variations out there and they have all worked for me. I use mostly vanilla and a little lemon or orange flavoring when I make stroopwafels. Martha Stewart's cookie recipe is good, but I had a total fail with the caramel in her recipe. The caramel I use is from Willy Dean's recipe found somewhere on the internet years ago. It is 1-1/2 c light brown sugar, 1 C butter, 1 tsp cinnamon and 6 T dark corn syrup boiled until it thickens. That's a lot of caramel. For this last batch, I doubled the cookie recipe from Martha's recipe and still had about a cup of caramel left over. Let me know if you try them. As for the sourdough, I think it may have baked too long. The dough soft and slightly on the wet side, so I don't think it was too much flour. I was thinking the crust should have been a bit darker, so I left it in a few minutes longer. It was okay fresh, but it dried quickly. I have some other bread in the freezer for bread pudding, so I don't need this too -- hope it makes good crumbs. I like your idea about retitling the next thread. Even baker's kaffeeklatsch -- we could soon be starting a new one every week. That's okay. I do have AC -- can't live in the Houston area without it -- no natural AC like in CA. We used to live in northern CA and DS1 is now in LA and loves the weather. This is year 4 and grad school options are mostly north of the snow belt -- could be a shock to his system. I get the feeling you are in southern CA. I am going to tackle organizing my cookbooks before I do any major baking. It's driving me crazy to not be able to put my finger on books like I'm used to. That's going to bleed over into cleaning other bookcases. Could be worse.........See MoreIt happened Again! ***Sourdough Starter
Comments (28)OT.. :) Michelle I did not want to start a whole new thread, but I know you said you like white bread and even though I was in a hurry to watch the playoffs last night and should have let this bread rise a little more, this is one of the best white breads I have made. Buttermilk White Bread 2 packages yeast 1 Tbsp. sugar 1/2 cup warm water 4 cups unbleached flour 1 tsp. salt 3 Tbsp. melted butter 1 1/2 cups buttermilk Combine yeast, sugar and water and let proof for 5 minutes. Mix flour, salt, melted butter and buttermilk until smooth and then add yeast mixture. I used my KA dough hook and kneaded for 10 minutes. Turn out into large buttered bowl, roll dough around till well coated with butter. Cover bowl and set in warm place for 2 hours. Punch down the dough, turn out on floured surface and pat gently into rectangle. Fold in ends and then sides of bread, pinch seams together. Put into buttered loaf pan and let rise to double in bulk. Bake at 375 degrees for 30 minutes....See MoreUsing refrigerated sourdough starter?
Comments (20)I'm coming into this late and sleepy, so please forgive me if I misread something. If you have an underfed starter, it will smell boozy and may have gray liquid on top. That's alcohol, and part of die off. It's harmless. Grannies used to drink it for a short of free booze. You can stir it back in or pour it off., but definitely feed your starter more often. Once it's well established it can go a long time in the fridge, but if it even smells boozy rather than sweet, keep it out and feed it twice a day until the booziness goes away to keep it strong and the yeast healthy. If you have water on top, or starchy water, rather than booze, which is almost unheard of but could happen, you just have more hydration than the flour can absorb. You can hydrate less or use a more absorbent flour, or compensate with a little less water in your loaf. I don't like the slurry texture at 100% hydration, though I never got loose water from it. I keep my whole wheat starter at 80% and my white starter at 70%. Re the original question, what Gardengal said is standard practice. So too is making a pre-ferment with the starter and some of the flour and water from the recipe. That's after feeding the starter. What that does for you is allow the yeast to multiply without tackling the whole of a loaf of bread. It strengthens the final rise as well. BUT, you can use your starter right out of the fridge if you really want to, and skip the pre-ferment. The starter won't be active until it warms up, and the amount of flour around it could shock it a bit, but it will eventually rise if you leave it alone in a warmish place. It might take a few days, but it will rise. Baking with sourdough starter is not fast, especially if you;'re not baking daily from a warm active starter. Patience, and letting the dough rise in its own time, is key....See More- 9 years ago
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