Design help for a very small kitchen please.

nancymark111

6 years ago

This kitchen is against the wall, 89 inches long.

I am getting Ikea cabinet.

I also want to put Sharp Over The Counter Microwave Oven - R1214 over the dishwasher.

It occurred to me the cabinet above the sink should be shorter right?

Any suggestions? TIA

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sheloveslayouts

6 years ago

last modified: 6 years ago

Every RE market is different, of course, but I'm wondering if this is a one bedroom and if you could move the bathroom entrance to the bedroom wall so you can increase your kitchen proper to a full 12'7" wide?

eta: I drew a door there between bedroom and closet, but you wouldn't actually need that. There's a door on the bathroom already.

at 12'11" you have space for a standard depth island with seating. I just put a free-standing piece there in the drawing.

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Milly Rey
6 years ago
In this case, I would get a microhood, not an over-the-counter microwave, and a double-oven 30" range. I would move the oven over your 5 extra inches and make room on the far side for pot handles. Those few inches really do matter. I would also create a custom slot in that space for cookie sheets and cutting boards.

I recommend not using Veddinge in a kitchen. It's the most delicate of IKEA's finishes.

I would get the Norrsjon 29" sink for the accessories or a Ruvati, with accessories and an offset drain so the sink cabinet is more useful.
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User
6 years ago
Agree. Microhood combination with extractor fan (Betrodd or Nutid models) should be used. I would recommend a slide-in range too. You need to keep as much counter space open as possible.
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mama goose_gw zn6OH
6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago
I like the MW as drawn--you don't need to reach over the range to access it. I'd suggest open shelves above the sink, for frequently used dishes, glasses, cups, but make the shelves shallower than the adjoining cabinet.

Accounting for a DW return panel to support the countertop, there won't be as much space between the range and DW as shown, so probably no space for a slot. You might consider an 18" DW, with a cutting board which fits over the sink, to increase counter space when needed. That would leave space on the other side of the range, which could be filled with pull-outs, top and bottom, but you'd have a narrower cabinet above the DW, and MW size would be limited.

9" base pull-out on amazon

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6" wall cabinet pull-out

Since this is posted in Smaller Homes--shout out to the SH peeps. :)
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sheloveslayouts
6 years ago
How tall are the ceilings above along this wall?
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Milly Rey
6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago
I like the idea of the18" dishwasher better. I love full sized dishwashers to the point that my new kitchen will have two, but it does seem excessive for the space here.

Ikea's for 12" bottom cabinets are TERRIBLE. And it looks like you'll only have 10-11" anyway. So if you can possibly swing it, custom would be the way to go. I would get frameless with adjustable shelves. In this one case, toekick drawers could be invaluable for big flat things--skillet, sheet pans, cutting board. Then the base cabinets with a pullout could be a pantry, if it is needed here, except the top drawer section for silverware and knives. In kitchens this small, many people often put a pantry in a coffee table!

I would still have the microhood because you lose much less upper cabinet space that way.

I loved my Gemini. But you could consider a 24" range to get 6" more countertop: https://www.ajmadison.com/24-inch-ranges/f

it really depends on your cooking style.

A convection microhood can also double as another oven, when needed: https://www.ajmadison.com/b.php/Over+the+Range%3BConvection%3BMicrowaves/N~28+4294964347+4294836719

Where is the refrigerator?
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Milly Rey
6 years ago
Oh, also, I have only 15" between my uppers and my sink right now. It's fine for me. Not ideal, but in my current teeny kitchen, I would rather have the cabinet space than not!
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nancymark111
Original Author
6 years ago
benjesbride

- height of the apt is ~ 8.5 feet , about 5-6 inches left above the cabinet.

Thanks
nancymark111
Original Author
6 years ago

Refrigerator is on the other side of the wall by the entrance. I wanted an L shaped kitchen, but the window was in the way.

Thanks
Milly Rey
6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago
In this case, I would definitely get a larger lower cabinet and impinge slightly on what I assume is the washer and dryer cabinet.

I would definitely take the cabinets to the ceiling--ikea's sizes aren't good for that. I would build a pantry around the left side of the fridge and a tiny narrow cleaning cabinet for broom etc on the right side.

I assume this is already built? And this is a remodel?
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Milly Rey
6 years ago
Oh, I like that!
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6 years ago
benjesbride

-what a great idea. Unfortunately, I already got permit and can't do what was proposed :(. I am stuck with current configuration .
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nancymark111
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6 years ago
Milly Rey

-this is a remodeling of a small NYC apartment.
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Milly Rey
6 years ago
Can you get another permit? :). Her ideas will really be worth the cost.
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Elizabeth B
6 years ago
What if fridge was moved over by bathroom door sink in the corner and range on fridge wall?
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User
6 years ago
I like for the wall cabs to all come to the same height, or in the case of a micro hood or vent hood, adjusting the height of that cab so they all run from the ceiling to the same distance from the counter top. I think one clean line makes the space a little nicer.
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Elizabeth B
6 years ago
For astetics that works but I am thinking for all practical reasons no one wants to stand and do dishes with an upper cabinet in their face.
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