Fast growing medium sized deciduous patio shade tree for south bay, CA
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fast-growing,drought-tolerant trees for Italy (zone 8?)
Comments (18)Melissa, broom is a pain in the neck. I used to love seeing it by the roadsides driving through the Italian landscape; so bright, so perfumed! But I think that is the only good context for it, in a way. It would be OK where it is on my property, if it didn't attract those effing beetles so wildly; in fact, IMO, the beetles exist precisely to keep the broom from taking over the entire world, since they suck the flowers and render them infertile. But the beetles are engineered to be wildly attracted to the colour yelow; that is, the stamens of ALL flowers,and due to the geography (or morphology???) of my land (sharply sloping down from the rose garden into the broom field and below that, oak woods,with a south-west orientation),having broom down there is like rolling out the red carpet for the beetles (well, the yellow carpet). Broom has strong, fibrous tap roots that can push their way through/ between rocks, etc. I think the only way I can do anything with this area is by hacking up the ground with my pick; I can't see just planting baby trees amongst that thuggish broom and hoping them to survive.Also, I'd have to water the babies in their first year, and I think the broom would just flourish all the more. Probably I'll try a mix of things and see what works best,but it will be necessary to work the soil before I plant anything. I probably should saw down all the broom in the area I wish to start cultivating, and maybe put black plastic bags over the stumps of the ones that are too deep rooted to dig up; for shade it might be better to rig up something artificial. I don't think your land was as abused as mine was; this area in question has been so badly eroded; I have to hunt out spots where it will be possible to dig down deep enough to start stuff. The rose garden area was similar when I started about 15 years ago,but I am not going to lug all this heavy clay, etc. all the way down there. To plant the first Leylandii I prepared an area,digging out rocks, putting in organic matter and kitty litter, etc. I'll certainly be watering it in it's first year at least! but the thing about Leylandii is that it was cheap; it's as tall as me and cost me all of 13 euros. So, if with some effort I can get it to establish,I might have a nice start.The thing is, even on the subject of drought resistance, people's experiences and opinions vary greatly with ALL plants, as far as I can see. To me,for example, roses are very drought-resistant once established, but many, many people heartily disagree with this opinion. So I will see what this Leylandii does before I make any decisions. Criteria for a nurse crop would have to be : economic ,(not to say, cheap) and fast-growing. But even for that, I will absolutely have to work on that soil ; as it is now, nothing new can start growing there, I think,except baby broom and maybe brambles (if they manage to compete with the broom)...bart...See MoreFast growing shade tree reccomendation for eastern CT
Comments (27)Greetings, I am new here and don't know much about trees but what I can tell U is this. 1. I've done a lot of research on the October Glory and from what I've read, you really can't go wrong with that thing. Matter of fact, I just planted one in my front yard between my sidewalk and street. 2. I just moved into my home a couple of years ago and we have this really, really, cool tree in the back yard that I have never seen. After two years I've finally had enough interest to find out what it was. I've discovered that it is a thornless, seedless Honey Locust tree.. It's quite large, the bark is really cool looking, the tiny leaves are aswesome. and there is hardly no clean up in the fall. The leaves just seem to disappear. Yet it gives great shade and from what I have read it's growth rate is pretty high. I just love the way that thing looks in the back yard. We even bought one of those tree face kits and put it on there..Something like this http://www.yardlover.com/products.php?catID=1491 Only annoyances i have are that I do get a couple branches laying around after a strom and in the spring time I get little tiny seeds or flowers falling on my patio. I would recommend the Honey Locust - It has that look that you are in a tropical location... Good Luck...See MoreCalifornia Bay Tree?
Comments (4)I've planted 4 of them; up here they are known as Oregon Myrtles. My 4 were tiny sticks with about 8 leaves when I planted them December 2005. Bought them nearby from a native nursery. The nursery lady said they eventually grow 100' tall by 100' wide but you don't see them that big because the wood is so valuable and beautiful that people cut them down. This is a lovely evergreen tree. The 4 I planted had a very slow start. Just 3 weeks ago neighbors on south side put up a 6' cedar fence and that's really helped everything planted near there, where these 4 myrtles are. They're growing now, deep green color and very healthy. Yes, compared to most other trees they are slow, but now they are speeding up a bit. It would take several years, at this rate, for it to become a patio shade tree. For my patio I constructed a raised bed, about 2' high, filled with super good dirt and covered with large stones with irish & scotch moss between the stones. Planted 3 mimosas and 1 purple robe locust there, plus vinca, yuccas, rhodies, and a rosemary going nuts. Since it's raised and everything here's baby from scratch (not tall enough to cast dense shade yet) I have to water the patio daily. But all these trees have thrived and gotten quite huge fast and give good dappled shade. Surrounded the perimeter with sequoias so in a few years won't have to water every day. There are folks here who don't like mimosa or locust but I had to have trees that could handle winter cold and water and yet loved summer sun and heat for this patio which is up against the house and so reflects scorching heat from the house walls and roof. These trees are working perfectly. Generally all the trees I've planted (over 300) appreciate some shade when they're babies. The umbellularia californicas certainly did and do. Even though they are slow, they're definitely worth planting along with faster trees so that decades down the road you have these gorgeous myrtles....See MorePac NW Shrubs and Trees - Fast Growing
Comments (18)If you want to feel boxed in a row of tall evergreens right on top of you is a great way to end up with that impression. Probably much better to continue with the informal planting, adding a few strategically placed shrubs and trees that are the right size for the space - and have relaxed (normal) growth habits producing a casual feeling. Columnar plant forms have a rigid appearance that generates a sense of exclamation or tension - just the thing to emphasize vertical architectural lines or announce the location of unwanted views or objects, rather than softening or concealing them. This post was edited by bboy on Tue, Sep 3, 13 at 15:15...See MoreRelated Professionals
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