Miele Combi Steam Oven - XL vs XXL (and layout advice)
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Miele Steam/Combi Steam ovens - plumbed vs non-plumbed?
Comments (45)I don't know the answer but I am curious. if I were you (and having the benefit of hindsight) I wouldn't hesitate to call any of the Miele USA "Experience Centers" and ask to talk to any of the design staff. If you are in the US start with the Princeton, NJ center, their US headquarters. Even better if you can get to a center. The staff at these centers are a world apart from anyone you'll encounter at any appliance dealer, they use the products for demos and classes and typically have the appliances in their own homes. And it's their job to know the details on what you are asking. And report back and let us know. P.S: A little searching and I found this: https://www.mieleusa.com/media/ex/us/PressReleases/2021/9.2021_Generation_7000_Launch.pdf. Food View sounds interesting. There's also this thread: https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6229141/miele-7000-series-speed-combi-steam#n=10 Advice on calling the experience centers still stands....See MoreGaggenau combi vs Miele xxl combi
Comments (9)> Is cleaning it a big deal? If I were to answer it would be from my point of view, in the bigger context I do not often use the oven with things that splatter, and so little cleaning experience. I do steam a lot and have to descale every few months. I'd refer you to three things: 1. The long and insightful Miele Combi steam oven owners' thread, has loads of real life usage and comments on cleaning. Helpful when I first go into it. 2. The owner's manuals, available from the Miele USA website for each product model. Main thought here is follow the instructions to the letter, the interiors have a specific surface treatment (Perfect Clean or whatever they call it) and require specific steps to clean. Don't use shortcuts or 'home brew' remedies! The surfaces really are easy to clean if you follow the instructions. 3. Attend some of the 'clinics' (a.k.a. training sessions) at any Miele experience center. I found these very helpful, I was new to combi steam cooking. The sessions are not just for cleaning, lots of great tips, insights and usage demos. Alternatively, if you cannot attend look for youtube videos on how to clean (Look for the Miele ones, not the people touting shortcuts and home remedies.) P.S: One more insight. Right after typing the above I cleaned a 'Universal Tray' that was used twice today. That tray comes with all the 24 in ovens, has a so called 'prefect clean' surface -- not intended for cleaning in a DW, so hand washing -- and true it it's name it took under 60 seconds to clean off baked on oil and other brown food residue. The perforated trays and pans, which is almost all of them, do not have a Perfect Clean surface are intended to be cleaned in a dishwasher....See MoreNeed help with Lacanche and Miele combi steam oven decision!
Comments (35)Hi Nicoleradams, Just curious - what did you end up choosing? We are in a similar decision point right now, planning on a Lacanche Vougeot for our kitchen and thinking of a Miele CSO XXL for the spice kitchen. Based on reviews, it seems like the Miele is fantastic for re-warming food, but the online manual suggests that it doesn't actually have an official keep warm setting (beyond a 15 minute default after food is done cooking). I guess people could just turn it on to a fairly low temperature with some steam/humidity to keep things moist?...See MoreCombi steam oven comparison + help (Miele, Gaggenau, Thermador, Wolf)
Comments (57)It's really the install of the plumbed version. More specifically the need for a drain. That limits where we can install one, or we have to trench 10' to a drain. On another note, with so many models to choose from, I'm struggling to make a decision. We are going with Wolf for the other appliances, so naturally you'd select Wolf, but I feel like with a CSO, it's important to buy the best one out there. A friend who has an older model Miele said they rarely use it because everything comes out like mush. I assume they're using it wrong or possibly an old version that didn't have easy programming. My assumption is they are not drying it at the last step of cooking....See MoreRelated Professionals
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