What trees/bushes to plant in cleared area surround by oaks and pines
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Clearing Planted pines for pasture & farm land
Comments (5)I'm afraid I don't have any advice for clearing trees, but I do have a somewhat related issue. I've got about 3 acres in an urban area on which I'd like to start an organic growing system. My most pressing concern right now is the field, currently covered mostly with grass. The soil has been tested to be clean and healthy, but the ground is full of rocks and chunks of concrete, some very large. In some areas, it's hard to dig more than a foot or two without hitting some sizeable rocks. The middle section of the field also floods during rains. My questions: 1) What steps do I need to take to prepare the field for planting, given all the rocks? Digging them all up by hand seems like a Herculean task. I can't afford to buy a tractor, but may be able to rent one. If I can rent one, what kind of equipment should I be looking to rent? 2) How can I increase the soil height or improve the soil drainage to prevent flooding? Dig runoff ditches maybe? The only suggestion I've heard so far is to truck in about 300 cubic meters of soil from outside sources, but this seems antithetical to an organic system. Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. And if anyone here knows what zone Shanghai, China, is, that would be helpful....See MoreHow to prep soil (recently removed pine trees, oaks, weeds)
Comments (7)First yuou need to take a good look at the soil, never assume anything about soil. If the leaves from the trees that once grew there were allowed to accumulate you may have a pretty decent soil, but if they were, as is usual, raked up and thrown away that soil might really be pretty bad. Contact your local office of your University of Massachussetts Cooperative Extension Service about having a good, reliable soil test done so you know what that soils pH and major nutrient levles are and then dig in with these simple soil tests, 1) Structure. From that soil sample put enough of the rest to make a 4 inch level in a clear 1 quart jar, with a tight fitting lid. Fill that jar with water and replace the lid, tightly. Shake the jar vigorously and then let it stand for 24 hours. Your soil will settle out according to soil particle size and weight. A good loam will have about 1-3/4 inch (about 45%) of sand on the bottom. about 1 inch (about 25%) of silt next, about 1 inch (25%) of clay above that, and about 1/4 inch (about 5%) of organic matter on the top. 2) Drainage. Dig a hole 1 foot square and 1 foot deep and fill that with water. After that water drains away refill the hole with more water and time how long it takes that to drain away. Anything less than 2 hours and your soil drains too quickly and needs more organic matter to slow that drainage down. Anything over 6 hours and the soil drains too slowly and needs lots of organic matter to speed it up. 3) Tilth. Take a handful of your slightly damp soil and squeeze it tightly. When the pressure is released the soil should hold together in that clump, but when poked with a finger that clump should fall apart. 4) Smell. What does your soil smell like? A pleasant, rich earthy odor? Putrid, offensive, repugnant odor? The more organic matter in your soil the more active the soil bacteria will be and the nicer your soil will smell. 5) Life. How many earthworms per shovel full were there? 5 or more indicates a pretty healthy soil. Fewer than 5, according to the Natural Resources Conservation Service, indicates a soil that is not healthy. to see what else you might need do to make that soil into a good, helathy soil that will grow strong and healthy plants. Here is a link that might be useful: UMass CES...See MoreSeverely compacted sandy soil in planting area of new small pines
Comments (9)PROPER WATERING SHOULD BE YOUR ONLY CONCERN .... and the only secondary concern.. is your ability to NOT love them to death .... pines thrive in MI .... put that part out of your head ... proper watering means the ability to get water to the roots that were all cut off for transplant .... and then allowing them to nearly dry before watering again .. while avoiding.... them standing in water for extended periods of time ... compared to our brethren who have clay .. you have great drainage .... even if some storm fills the hole.. full drainage within one day should be OK .... my bigger concern might be blacktop in february ... my kids walk around out there in single digits temps without shoes on sunny days... because the blacktop is so warm .. relatively speaking .... it is not good when the dormant frozen trees roots are brought out of dormancy due to heating of the blacktop .... you may want to consider some burlap along the south side ... to shade the soil from winter sun ... perhaps a new post regarding such .. if no one else chimes in here ... water properly ... deeply.. infrequently .... and nearly drying ... and you should be all set for summer and fall .. then start thinking about winter .... you live in MI .. you have been up north .... once you get north of flint.. pines cover most of the rest of the state ... with little or no help from humans ... ergo.. the suggestion that you dont love yours to death .... deal with the transplants issues .... and the tree will take care of the rest .... good luck ken...See MoreWhat are your all-time favorite vines/plants/bushes/trees?
Comments (2)I second Saskatoon berry, the fruit is to die for! marric, I have Regent and Smokey varieties and the latter bears more fruit. Other favorite shrubs: weigela 'Carnaval', cotinus coggyra Royal Purple, Hakuro Nishiki variegated sage (all full sun). Favorite perennials: Astilbes, Heucheras, Cimicifuga, Hakonechloa and Hostas for shade, Helictotrichon (Blue Oat Grass I think), Miscanthus grass, Ostfreidland Sage, Campanula, Ornamental Garlic, Catananche and Sedum spectabile for sun, just to name a few! :) FAvorite vines: Clematis, what else! A new favorite tree is Macckia amurensis which is good choice here with our Canadian winters!...See MoreNHBabs z4b-5a NH
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