Spacing in MCM Kitchen - Visuals Included
The Ikea Kitchen Designer that came in this week sent back out first pass design (Which is awesome), but had a few questions. Also, there will be floating shelves on wall towards peninsula.
1. She included a 6" space in between the fridge and doorway to the mud room. Can the fridge be flush with the door, or is this a design no-no?
2. Should our window over the faucet be bigger? Feels a bit off balanced to me, but maybe this isn't a big deal.
Upper cabs: High gloss white // Bottom cabs: Flatsawn walnut (Dendra Doors) // Countertop: Engineered quartz in Eggshell // Stainless appliances // Oak floors
Updated floorplan
Old kitchen (Yes, still beautiful, but no appliances worked and needed a good refresh).
For context, the other side of the kitchen is this gorge living room
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sheloveslayouts
6 years agoInstead of a 48" corner cabinet next to the dishwasher, you might consider putting a 24" drawer base cab perpendicular to the dw and then putting a shelf only 24" base cabinet accessible from the other side, under the overhang. Drawers are just so much better than getting on your hands and knees to reach the back of those shelves cabinets.
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6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoIs there room to put the fridge where the wall ovens used to be? It would give you 3 more feet of workspace around the range. The fridge landing area would just be the island.
A G
6 years ago
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6 years agolast modified: 6 years ago
suzanne_sl
6 years agoAre you talking about one of these kinds of silverware drawer?
I open the silverware drawer a zillion times a day, not just when it's time to set the table - a knife to butter the toast, a fork to scramble the eggs, a spoon for DGD's fruit cup snack. I'd rather just open the intended drawer than first the pot drawer and then the silverware drawer.
The 6" between the refrigerator and the doorway may be dictated by the size of the cabinets/stove you have along that wall. If you had a choice, moving the fridge over a few inches would be good. As for flush, that's probably too close. When we installed our similar (minus the fridge) wall, we mis-measured a bit and ended up flush. No clue how that happened as we're positively obsessive about measuring, but fortunately it wasn't worse. You can see how that looks.
With a full depth refrigerator (~33" vs 24" cabs) in that spot, the doorway might begin to look like a tunnel. OTOH, it's a mudroom back there, so maybe not an issue. Given a choice, I'd expand 3", but not 6".
Fern
6 years agoA G
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6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoKatie Jones
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