I have all of these other than Memorie, with the youngest being second year plant.

Savanah and Plum Perfect being the most productive. Winter Sun and Dark Desire for some reasons do not grow well. Sweet Beauty is total wimp here. Not feel it as far as these three are concerned

summer Rommance and zaide: waiting for them to re-bloom. Suspect neither is the best rebloomer, but too soon to tell

I have only Earth Angel. It's been very good for me, a very delicate looking flower on a really tough bush. Totally disease free, heat resistant, good bloom repeat and fragrance. Mine grows lanky (but very fully foliaged), but I've seen more compact bushes, perhaps because of different pruning practices.

Nice rose bush in your pic Sara Ann!

Grafted on Dr. H, DarkDesire really blooms for me despite midge and BS. : ( They last a long time on the bush, as well and smell nice. OR Summer Romance defies BS and gave great super fragrant blooms before midge hit, but seems to still grow leaves and is making a very dense shrub. I think her flushes are slower, but with the midge it's hard to judge. OR Zaide is new in a pot and getting huge. super long canes, but still bushy with beautiful foliage. Zero BS and blooming despite already getting Midge. :(( First Crush has WONDERFUL fragrance and always has some bloom and some BS. : ((( I think she's OR. OR Fire Opal has a fleeting fragrance, is an exceptionally healthy robust grower with constant flowers and many of them. She stays within bounds unlike DD that wants to grow tall an annoying with a gangly habit. I think it will be better next year when I'm home to prune in the spring.

I have Beverly, Savannah, and Summer Romance. Of the three, I prefer Beverly for overall form and health. It's very healthy, blooms often, and I like the fragrance. I like how it's usually light pink with silver edges, but it's interesting how every now and then it turns a really bright glow-in-the-dark pink in the center.

Savannah I'm still a bit undecided on -- I like the look when a flower just opens, but I really do not like the flat button form they turn into. Flowers are smaller than Beverly, but I think the fragrance is a tad better? It's hard to remember without them blooming right this second.

Summer Romance hasn't ever flowered, and I think I've given it enough time, space, and care to do something, so I'm most likely removing it this fall. I try to pick roses based on toughness and fragrance, so I'm really disappointed in this one because I grew it specifically for the fragrance.

It's not on your list, but I used to have First Crush. I had to look up the symptoms to realize it was bullnosing (not thrips) pretty much every bloom. The handful of roses that did form perfectly fell apart fairly fast, but it never outgrew the bullnose issue, so I removed it this spring. I've seen some beautiful pictures of this one, so my guess is either it didn't care for humid springs and summers, or I had bad luck with my particular rose.

I'd love to try a lavender rose like Poseidon, but I'm afraid it would fry here.

Soul sister is re blooming steadily as a new own root 1 gallon

In the process of removing three (five?) Kordes. Pompenella FT, Cinderella FT and Awakening. All bulletin proof in term of BS resistance, and all are vigorous and otherwise otherwise beyond reproach. But alas, they ball like crazy!!!!

Haven't decided on the other two yet: Floral FT and Sweet Jane. FFT basically just sit there doing nothing after the spring flush, and gets lots of BS. Sweet Jane is spotless, but the flowers turn ugly within a day or two (think wet toilet paper). No surprise why SJ was not popular after having been introduced for a while (a 1999 Kordes introduction). The darn thing is so healthy and hearty, and I just look at it and sign.

I have Beverly Savannah and Dark Desire. Dark Desire is just a brand new band so it's still developing but I love Savannah it is a huge Bush. I planted it in April and it is gotten gigantic, full of blooms. Beverly on the other hand is a slow starter . The few flower she's given me him been spectacular but she is much slower to rebloom in my yard.

I think it's so interesting how the same Rose can do so differently in different neighborhoods and different homes even in the same Zone.

oh I forgot I also have out of rosenheim and Florentina I think those are both Kordes roses and those are both doing really really well with glossy beautiful foliage and lots of repeat.

OMGosh! I'm so bad, Kristine. I forgot I have Florentina as well. I guess I forget because she's new, still in a pot from ARE. I've see a full grown specimen of her so can't wait for her to develop. You're so lucky yours is already blooming.

Sara-Ann,

Here are the Kordes roses you don't have yet, going by your list, that I have right now:

PINK ENCHANTMENT. What a rose...heavy bloomer-not a bit shy, fast repeat, beautiful flower form and substance, color more vibrant during cooler weather, disease free, winter hardy with no protection, better fragrance than expected.

EARTH ANGEL. Delicate beauty, but a tough bush, disease free, no winter protection needed, extremely fragrant, very cupped, smallish, long lasting blooms, leggy growth that may tame down given a couple more years, nodding necks-OK by me, likes to bloom, very good repeat.

CREAM VERANDA. Very pretty, smallish flower, bush stays compact at about 2', disease free, blooms are short lived getting ugly quickly, always has a few blooms, but is stingy with them, one here and there, possibly destined for the shovel.

Here are Kordes roses you have that I no longer have (shovel pruned):

ZAIDE. Leggy, reluctant bloomer.

DARK DESIRE. Bush form disorganized, flower color went brown, not fried or crisp, by day three at outer petals, white streaks on just about every other petal.

SAVANNAH. Pancake flat blooms when fully open, dies to the ground over winter.

SUMMER ROMANCE. enormous bush, but sparse blooming, flowers bunched too tightly together in their cluster.

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You and I both have BEVERLY......excellent fragrance, one of the quickest recyclers I have ever had, flower substance a bit lacking, but still pretty in all stages, needs winter protection or it dies to the ground for me.

My QUICKSILVER is too young to say much yet, but it is growing nicely.

Moses

Oh ya, cream veranda ha ha. I totally forgot that one.

Florentina, I don't even k ow what to do with it. I have a trelis, a small fence in front. It is so stinkin big that I havent been able to totally Control her .

Lol on Savannah's 'pancake flat' blooms. First time I saw it, I thought of salmon croquettes. Tasty, but not pretty. Who cares if the plant is disease resistant and prolific when the flowers resemble fish burgers?

I think you should give Sweet Beauty a chance. I have both Buxom Beauty and its sport Sweet Beauty. Buxom Beauty was a total wimp for 2 years. This year it has tons of huge fragrant flowers. I am amazed by it!! Totally love it now. Ii think Sweet Beauty (younger by a year in my garden) will be the same.

Zaide - for me, it has been in nonstop bloom. It was a bare root last year. I think with its fountain effect it has a lot of charm.

Dark Desire had long canes (upward), but the huge winds we got broke off about 5 canes. It's blooming now...but rather short.

Carol

Your DD is so pretty. So different to my colour. Same with your Zaide.

Dark Desire is so beautiful

vaporvac - yes, it's a gorgeous rose! I really am in love with my Zaide - and that's saying a lot since mine has very little fragrance.

Kristine - yes, isn't it. Mine is still so short from having lost most of its cane from the wind. I can't capture the purple of the rose that well. Your Florentine is amazing!! That's a really strong red and it has a great shape!! Is there fragrance?

Carol

I just purchased Summer Romance yesterday, at Lowes on impulse, so I'm eager to see how it does in my dry heat. My Earth Angel is rather new and still potted, so I'm not much help on that one either. I have Poseidon, and it just can't take the bright sun here. Last year Poseidon was in full sun, all day long. Around April, every single bloom began to fry. This past February, I moved Poseidon to a new raised bed that becomes shaded from 2-3pm on. The blooms still fried to a crisp. I saw a big flush coming last month, and put up an old screen door to shade it. I got perfect noncrispy blooms. It worked, but I'm not willing to do that all the time. I have just started using Protekt, and hope it helps. The bush is healthy as can be, and the blooms are gorgeous. If the Protekt doesn't take care of the problem, I have one more thing to try. I have a beautiful passion vine, that I could grow near Poseidon. I'll try to train the vine to shade the blooms. If that doesn't work out, I'm not sure what I'll do. Poseidon is lovely, but definitely not one for full sun in my climate. Lisa

How about Valencia? In my zone it does really well. I haven't seen any BS on it and it produces gorgeous, firm-petaled blooms that last in the vase. Moderate fragrance.

Wow, I am drooling over Alchemist.

I'm drooling over all of altorama's pictures. They all look like they're from a magazine. What am I doing wrong!

Altorama - Those are amazing!! Swoon and hold the back of my hand to my forehead. Alchemist is amazing!! Wish that rose would rebloom. What a stunner!

I agree with towanddaaz - Valencia is amazing. Here's a picture I've shown too much...but :)

The supports are there because we had a huge windstorm.

Carol

Wow, Valencia is fabulous!

Today I am so excited. My Cream Veranda is finally bloomig a very pale apricot color instead of white.

Florentina, I dont notice a fragrance

Kristine,

My Cream Veranda blooms have the richest, deep rich peach, almost orange centers upon just opening, grading to cream outer most petals. I was not expecting this coloration. It is lovely. The photos of CV at HMFR show a peach center, but not as intense as mine seem to be.....and this is the 'fade out' time of year for rich bloom colors here in W. PA.

When fully open the vibrant center color completely fades and the entire bloom is a uniform cream in color. Unfortunately, the blooms get ragged, aging quickly. This would possibly be acceptable if the flowers were produced in abundance, but only one here or there per bush has been Cream Veranda's habit so far. I hope it shifts gears into abundant flower production next year. I think it will.

Cream Veranda is disease free for me, and black spot pressure here is severe, so this is a great plus.

Moses

I wonder if anyone remembers JimNY, he had tons of Kordes.

Moses, your CV sounds so beautiful. That is what I was expecting and then got white

This poor rose had spider mites and then powdery mildew. It is finally healthy and thriving . The upside, it has been a prolific bloomer. Now to have some color makes it even better.

I hope yours starts bein more generous with those beautiful blooms.

Thanks Kristine! :)

Carol

Thank you everyone! So many beauties and great suggestions!

Altorama- your roses are gorgeous. Are they own root or grafted. And how old? They are so big and healthy. If I got half the amount of flowers as you I'd be in heaven. None of my roses are as stunning as yours!! If you don't mind providing which area of MA do you live in? I'm in southern Worcester county in the CT, RI, MA tristate border. Do you buy your roses locally? We've been to Roseland in Acushnet a few times but I buy mostly mail-order.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned fiji/cherry lady. Mine is new this year, but it is super clean in a high bs area, the blooms are quite large & it's growing vigorously.

I also am interested in finding some of the newer kordes. So this is a great thread for seeing what does well. I really want disease resistant/cold hardy roses & kordes seem to be a good match. I also planted poseidon this spring. It's great and a blooming fool. Other ones planted this spring are summer sun & rosanna. They are settling in well, but have not shown the same blooming as fiji yet. I also have westerland which is an older kordes one. But is is a very healthy plant.

Carol I keep going back to that picture of Valencia I think it is such an amazing looking Rose .It is so full. Is the color yellow with a little bit of orange or is it more true yellow

The color is less yellow and more peachy. It can open somewhat yellowish if the weather is cooler.

I really love Valencia!! The perfume is medium to strong perfume style. I don't know what word describes the not sweet perfume bottle fragrance.

Enchantedrosez I am so sorry I never saw your post! If you are still around, I am NW of Boston.

I quickly became a Kordes rose collector - added Florentina, Soul Sisters, Plum Perfect, Jasmina, Kiss me Kate, Honeymoon, Cream Veranda, Savannah and Earth Angel this spring. Had Summer Romance and Quicksilver for seasons now and they are the best performers in my garden!

Rosecanadian, Valencia is just fantastic. Where did you get yours? Is it grafted?

Thanks so much! I can't remember where I got it from..I've had it for about 8 years I think. Yes, it's grafted. I repotted it for the first time last summer...hopefully it does well this summer. I love this rose...and the blooms last for soooo long...here about a month.

Altorama Ray, I'm still here just waiting for spring, lol.

I lost quite a few roses over this winter so I'm evaluating what to do next. I'll definitely be downsizing my garden though, it's getting to be a bit too much work and the roses struggle for lack of sun. Most of my Austins did well but I lost quite a few of the Kordes roses. Madame Anisette is really tough and Summer Romance came through great as did Earth Angel but most are struggling. I even had a lot of damage to my laurel, rhodi's and holly this year. I'm starting to plant more hydrangeas since they seem to like my particular gardening environment much better, especially the panicles. Not quite roses though :-(

I hope you fared better in your end of the state. Your roses are breathtaking.

Sharon

Carol, you have the best photos of Valencia. I recall you were experimenting with gritty mix in a pot. What have you learned? What is your preferred potting mix now?

Thanks Sharon. My roses were fine except for a large rambler that mysteriously died to the ground but I don't think it was from the temps. Luckily it is putting out new canes.

I tend to grow a lot of once bloomers, they are usually tip hardy here.

Hydrangeas hate me! I have a few but the only one that does really well is my climbing hydrangea.

Would still love to see some pictures of your roses! Sorry about your Kordes, I love those roses too but only 2 are doing well, the others were not hardy enough.

Alida

Totoro - well...there hasn't been enough time to make an informed decision. They were bare root plants. For my new bare roots this year...I'm going back to using organics. But I'm leaving the ones from last year the same...and I'll see how they do. I like the organic way better...because I can re-use old soil by refreshing it with compost, etc. I'll let you know. :)