Switch to induction and your concerns will be gone. Check Miele.

The install instruction show a 4" x 16" space at the top right rear for gas and electric coming out of the back wall. No effect that method on drawers below. You could also increase the depth of the counter including the rangetop to 28-30".. Install instructions page 6.

I'd call Wolf Tech Support to get better instructions for the kind of installation you want.

Blum Tandem full extension here drawer slides can go up to 24, 27 or 30". Get the space you need.

Your spec sheets for the rangetop should tell exactly how much clearance is needed.

We changed our plans of going with gas to induction after attending the Wolf-SubZero cooking demonstrations and observing that induction was faster. Now that we have the induction cooktop we absolutely love it and are thrilled with our choice. Clean up is a breeze, because nothing bakes on. It's incredibly responsive to temperature changes. Water boils so quickly! It's just a fantastic way to cook. And we were able to mount it flush with the granite and get a third drawer for utensils on top with two pots and pan drawers below.

What kind of relationship do you have with your cabinet maker? If you can, talk to them. They should have a plan for this totally normal situation!

I had an induction cooktop in previous kitchen that allowed for 3 drawers but due to mechanicals, the top drawer was not full depth. See if something like that would work. Not saying you have space for a third top drawer, just that tweaking the drawer boxes themselves might be doable. Or just shorten the top one. Seems like they should be able to put enough stuff inside your brand new wall that you don't need to nerf both drawers!

Your drawer boxes do not have to be square, either. Notch them if you gotta. And, um, maybe put the gas shut off somewhere you can actually access it in the event you need to?

Top-down view, obviously before cooktop and counter installed.

Dan..thanks for the link. I tried to figure out if this 4x16" space would force my 2 drawers to be 18" in depth. Just not sure.

the Blum can go up to 30"! Such valuable information. This may really help me out. Thank you.

Fori...they are Amish cabinetmakers and they work strictly through the kd. But they do tons of cabinets. So this is a great suggestion. I think I will ask her to contact the chief about this scenario that I'm sure they have encountered and how they usually built the drawers.

i know there is not room for 3 drawers under the rangetop. I will be happy with 2. one full and one partial. But 2 18" drawers is disappointing.

Anyone...Fori said something intriguing about the gas shutoff. And it being somewhere where it can actually be reached! Where else could the emergency shut off be placed??

Cheryl...if I could get to a demo, it might change my mind. Who knows. I know everyone just raves about induction. You know what they say about an old dog ;-)

ILoveRed, check to see if they have any in your area.

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I was 100% in love with the idea of a gas rangetop until we went to the cooking demo. It wasn't even anything the chef pointed out, we just observed it. I resisted for a few more days, because gas is sexy. But eventually reason won out.

I would pull the range top forward a few inches so you can get deeper drawers.

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They say an old dog will chew a new bone as much as any other dog once he gets going. Check out induction for sure.

That 4 x 16" upper right space is for gas and electric coming directly out of the wall at that level. When you do it like that the space below the 4 x 16" area doesn't come into play. If you go with a deeper counter your frig will be closer to counter depth also.

Meh, I've tried induction, and I'm not impressed; I'm doing a range-top, too. I like Wilson's idea of pulling that cabinet forward. Good luck, ILoveRed, I hope you figure out something that works!

Gennifer B,

Which induction cooktop did you try? What did you not like about it? Your comments are as valid as the induction lovers (myself included). It may help someone form a better impression of the solution. Just saying you were not impressed does not tell someone what points were bothersome so they may consider this in their decision making.

Get induction.

I tried a few different ones at a local high-end showroom, but it was a couple of years ago, and since none of them blew me away I don't remember which specific brands I tried.

The cooktops got hot (certainly not the "only the pans get hot" like I had heard), and they didn't seem any faster. Also, the response time when turning down the heat was an issue for me.

And then there's the looks. ;)

While I went in expecting to be blown away, I just... wasn't. It's fine, and if I had one I would certainly use it, but it's not what I'm choosing for my new kitchen. I prefer gas.

My goal isn't to dissuade people, just to let it be known that not everyone loves it once they try it.

Gennifer,

I did not want you to dissuade people but all points are valid for evaluation. Just to note, all the issues you described are not issues that I have experienced on any induction cooktop even my portables. Just for full disclosure, I own an induction cooktop and a gas wok burner because I was reticent to go full induction initially. In retrospect, I don't use the wok burner very often.

I can understand that the looks in not for everyone but I like minimalist and sleek surfaces.

Red....I just measured my drawers under my wolf rangetop. 21" plus the drawer front. I recall that during cabinet installation the contractor told me they may have to notch the top drawer for the gas line but then they determined it wasn't necessary. Our gas shut off is in the adjacent cabinet to the left - it's a bank of 3 drawers. All of those drawers are 21". I highly recommend going to the Wolf website - the details and specs are clearly spelled out. Or call tech support they keep a log of all your calls....for a while I was on their frequent flyer list!

Since you don't know much about which ones you tried, it sounds like you mistakenly were trying the much more prevalent a few years ago Ceran cooktops. They get up to 750*. They have very very poor response. And they look exactly like induction. I'd go back in for another run.

The cooktops got hot (certainly not the "only the pans get hot" like I had heard), and they didn't seem any faster. Also, the response time when turning down the heat was an issue for me.

I agree with Dan. It sounds like you tried glass cooktops, not induction.

Induction people start "that" conversation every time they possibly can, despite the fact that the op asked about a Wolf gas rangetop. Whatever. I've cooked on the Miele induction, the Samsung, the Bosch, and every time I go to my sister's house, I cook on a Fasar (Fasar!) that was installed in the 1980s. The best of these in my opinion is the Fasar, and I'd rather cook on gas.

Genn, you do raise an interesting question, though. Does the car you drive say anything about the cooking surface you will love? I prefer gas and I drive a Saab 9-3 convertible.

Induction people start the conversation primarily because the majority of posters are unaware of the option or haven't tried it. Some respond to the info and get the hands on to make an informed decision. Some 'think' gas is the professional choice when the worlds best chefs like Heston Blumenthal of The Fat Duck who has a series of YT vids using a Gaggenau induction cooktop in his home kitchen as well as others at his restaurant say that isn't so . . . . .. And the list of the world's best rated restaurants/chefs goes on. . . . .

.Use what you want once you know the choices. . . . .Check the many threads in the Appliance forum for the opinions of other switchers.

Um. Implying that anyone who doesn't choose induction is uninformed is a bit patronizing, don't you think? This is the kitchen forum. Most people here are TKO, and have heavily researched many aspects of their kitchen.

Some people try induction and love it. Some people don't. Some people like marble. Some people don't. Some people like a main-floor master. Some don't. Some people like wood-look tile. Some don't.

Some people can answer an OP with relevant information. Some can't without giving unsolicited, irrelevant opinions. ;)

I'm sorry you misunderstood the words I wrote in the above post. Let me rewrite them for you. Use what you want once you know the choices. Good info can influence someone with an open mind and I hope it does. But everyone decides for themselves.

I know it probably won't make a difference, but I will try one last time. When you say things like 'Good info can influence someone with an open mind' you're being passive-aggressive.

It's one thing to give information. It's another to imply that anyone who doesn't make the same choice as you is uninformed or close-minded.

Delivery is everything. :)

Wilson...I like the idea of pulling the rangetop forward for deeper drawers. but is that possible on mine since there is no space between the rangetop cabinet and the drawer stacks next to it? I will look into this idea. Thank you.

Delivery is everything. :)

Please also realize that writing in a forum where we can't see the other person's expressions, limits how things sound depending on who's reading it. Some of us are more "gifted" with being able to say just the right thing on a forum and many of us are not. Most of us mean well and as dan said, just want to make sure everyone makes the best decision based on the best info.

Again, I'm sorry your sensitivity is being tweaked here. No one is able to force another person to make a choice over the internet. There's nothing inappropriate in being enthusiastic about a product you believe in. We all rely heavily on that exact feeling being honestly expressed on these boards. Remember the OP? She said she really hasn't tried induction and felt it could be difficult for her to change from what she knows. That response drives me to put out more in the hope she can explore a little and then make a fully informed choice on her own. If you and I were cooking I'm sure we could both turn out great product on either format that we would both enjoy. (Here's the pass/aggres part) Your kitchen would just need the ac turned on.

Ok guys...just wanted you to know that I probably didn't spend as much time addressing each of you individually as I should have but I've spent all morning researching and trying to figure this out as a result of your advice. I've got a call into my kd right now and I'm going to talk to her about bumping out my rangetop cabinet which would give me back some inches.

also going to see about increasing the depth of the rest of the run to 25" since the frig and oven cabinet are already 25" anyway to accommodate the integrated frig and the ovens.

from what I've read this morning, it seems like I really do need 4" minimum off the depth of the drawers which would only be 20" drawers. Maybe she is going 18" to play it safe??? Found this forum pic or visual which helped me understand.

the biggest question I have now that was brought up by someone above is this...Is there a more accessible place for the emergency shut off for the gas? Other than behind the drawer. It doesn't sound that easy to get to. Could it be in my pantry, which would be easier to get to??

i don't mind folks trying to persuade me to switch to induction. When you love something you want others to share in your joy ;-) But, I really love my gas.

Thanks so much!!!

ILoveRed, here's a couple of photos that may help you. I had saved a lot of these types of photos because I am doing something similar with a 48" range top. I really like the way this looks and it gives you more room at the rear for your bigger stock pots.

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Red.... I'm not sure if you read my earlier post. It's burried in with the induction discussion. A couple of things: 1. I am not an expert but your drawer depth is dictated by the length of your drawer glides. You should probably verify this, but it is my understanding Blum does not make a 24" glide. So your drawers are not going to be the full 24" depth unless of course you bump out the cabinet and use a longer glide. 2. If they have to notch the drawer they only notch a portion. Enough to accommodate where the appliance plugs into the gas and elect. The 16" length just means your plugs have to be within that space. Again, don't take my word for this please verify with Wolf. But if you are changing to induction then this is all moot.

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You will also need to have a much deeper hood, or bump out your hood with a non combustible material, if you bump out your range top.

And the gas shut off in the kitchen? That's so you can shut off gas to the rangetop without affecting other appliances. It's for maintenance and repair. If you have an emergency you will most likely shut the gas off at the meter. Easier and faster.

BTW, look at oldbat2b's kitchen to see this exact scenario. She used a custom stainless spacer I believe.

If going stainless, Wolf makes a 27" deep hood. That is what I am using over a Capital range top.

27" is the recommended depth for a standard range. You would need deeper than that for something bumped out.

Wilson...how many inches are you bumping it out and what are you doing with the gap behind your rangetop as a result of pulling it out?

Does your rangetop have the "island trim"? Thank you.

Honu...

"If they have to notch the drawer they only notch a portion. Enough to accommodate where the appliance plugs into the gas and elect. The 16" length just means your plugs have to be within that space. "

So, it looks like the first drawer can be full length on the left side and notched on the right! And the bottom drawer full length all the way across if the services come out of the wall as Dan and Fori mentioned. Thank you.

btw..thanks for clarification on the gas shut off

Linda...I do not want to have a hood that is too shallow.

lets say I do not bump out my rangetop cabinet.

If I purchase a 22" deep Wolf liner and put it in a custom, wood hood..is that just a bad idea? See bottom item in screenshot. Thanks.

My range top cabinet is 27" deep so it is three inches deeper than usual. I do not have island trim. We plan to use the granite as a bridge behind the range top. Here's an older thread that discusses some options.

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