Hello Rosesinny, I'm in the Piedmont of NC, a place I feel sure that those who spray would have success with Lyda Rose. I'd guess that we are no more BS prone than New York state's country areas, but NYC might have fewer forests and thus far fewer fungi to deal with? We cleared some trees to build the house, but much of our property remains forested. The place I bought my Lyda Roses is farther to the south than we are--Roses Unlimited--so I doubt that there's any problem with growing Lyda Rose if you spray here. We're just not going to do that. One factor might be that two of the three Lyda Roses are planted alongside two Brilliant Pink Icebergs. I was thinking more of how good the two might look together and the shade tolerance for Icebergs when deciding on that... though I knew that plenty of rose growers in the East have reported BS problems and probably should have assumed it was a bit risky. Anyway, all four of those plants are close to being totally defoliated now, and I'm ready to start over for the planter that they're in, adjoining a pergola. Since reading your post, though, I've started thinking about putting the Lyda Roses into 2-gallon containers and placing them in a sunnier spot to recover, and perhaps place them somewhere else later. But for sure the Brilliant Pink Icebergs are going to get tossed. I do love everything about the Icebergs, but they're really much better sited on the West Coast then here. Something is messed up on my computer's interface with the garden web website. When joining, I provided all my info, but it reported my location as the United States only... and, as a matter of fact, that's what shows up here for you and every other member when I click on their name. And I see no place to modify my profile at all. But anyway, I'm not OregonMary or whatever... just (North) CarolinaMary. From the point of view of what we can grow, well, most roses--those that need cold winters and those that need mild winters and hot summers. Shade is the big problem for roses here, though there are some areas with pretty good direct sunlight. I am trying to decide what to put in place of the roses in the planter. I'm thinking of Climbing Pinkie, but I don't know whether it might work with so little direct sunlight. I've also thought of Old Blush Climbing, but am getting the impression that the climbing form might need more sunlight than the bush form. I think I know that Madame Plantier would do really well. (There's approximately full sun from late November until mid April, when the leaves come back on our deciduous trees.) My husband would really prefer a rebloomer, though, so I am trying to think of things. We need for that spot low thorns, some flexible canes for training, high BS resistance, and really good shade tolerance. I don't think there's a chance that Zephirine Drouhin would work in terms of disease resistance, but I've given some thought to Kathleen Harrop. Probably not. Cornelia from all but (perhaps) one nursery in this country isn't almost thorn-free, and though I love that rose, the one possible source for a very low thorns version would be furnishing a too-small band for planting at this time of year (at least for my comfort level). But I might go for it anyway from another nursery. I've also thought about Mortimer Sackler, Snow Goose, Renae, Lamarque, and Madame Alfred Carriere. The disadvantage with Madame Alfred Carriere is the fast hardening up of the canes that makes them hard to train if you for any reason can't keep working at it... and I know the rate at which we tend to get around to fulfilling all our intentions on yard work here. We have a Renae, if removing the one cane I saw with RRD worked. When we got the first one, it began to go downhill in its pot on the back porch as it became increasingly shady from the deciduous trees to its south. But after moving Renae into a spot with 3-4 hours of sun, it did fine. The spot for the planter is somewhere in between those two extremes, so it's hard to guess. We also have a Ghislaine De Feligonde, and there's a temptation to just plant it there and be done with it. However, I was thinking that something more leggy than that big bushy one would be better, so we can also see the jonquils and hellebores I'd like to plant there. Decisions, decisions.... If you have any further ideas, don't hesitate to make suggestions. Thanks so much for your Lyda Rose feedback! Best wishes, Mary

Kate---I too love CM----She is easy to control---she is about 5 -6 ft tall ---I keep her pruned when I pick bouquets--- She is one of the few roses blooming in this hot dry weather--she is the one in the foreground on the left----this was taken in the spring---none of the roses look like this now---LOL she has a nice fragrance----I like her she is from Ashdown !!! Florence

Hi Cori Ann -- I checked websites of nurseries near me in the north bay but didn't see Lyda Rose. I did find this website of nurseries in Sonoma county that you might want to check out. It lists Vintage Gardens which means the list hasn't been updated in awhile but you might get lucky. Sonoma County Nurseries I would encourage you to get Lyda Rose. Mine is about three years old and lives mostly in partial shade. Despite the fact that I love the multi-petaled, old fashioned look of DA-type roses, this single rose is one of my favorites. I believe I'll always have a Lyda Rose in my garden. She had her best year last spring. Your Lyda Rose might do better than mine if given a bit more sun. It blooms almost continuously, even into late fall. I just cut the Podacarpus shrub to the left of Lyda Rose by about 60% so she and other roses will get more morning sun this year. Looking forward to seeing some improvement in this section of the garden. Ann

I'm in a very different climate from you (northern California, 9b) but here are some photos of Lyda Rose. This bush shot is from last weekend. Here are photos from prior years. I think she's about 5 x 5 after five years or so. I got LR from the old owners of Heirloom as a tiny band. She was growing in partial shade but I've removed the large tall shrubs that were shading her near the fence. I don't recall her being very thorny. She blooms a lot and is fragrant. Ann